NRA backed bill would strip states right to legislate guns

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Mayors Against Illegal Guns has a problem with proposed federal legislation, backed by the NRA that would eliminate enforcement of local and state concealed weapon laws against visitors with guns.

States' rights over federal preemption of those rights is a large part of the argument of those that want to curb abortions and implementation of the Affordable Healthcare Reform for America Act, but when it comes to gun rights the positions change.

The NRA is staunchly behind and lobbying for passage of what is called the National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, H.R. 822. The U.S. House of Representatives is about to hold hearings on the bill that would eliminate every state’s right to set minimum standards for carrying a loaded, concealed firearm within its borders.

Currently, a gun owner from a state in which it is perfectly legal to carry a concealed, loaded weapon, would be in violation of another state's laws that precludes that right. H.R. 822 would change that.

The NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox, recently stated his organization's position on the legislation in a pre-Labor Day interview with the Daily Caller.

"This Labor Day weekend, many families will pack up the car for one last road trip to the beach, lake or park before summer ends. Unfortunately, many of them will have to check their right to self-defense at the state border. Thankfully, there is legislation making its way through Congress that would fix this."

Nationalizing gun permits is the end game of the legislation which flies in the face of the principle at the heart of the states' rights argument.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bi-partisan organization created by the mayors of New York and Boston, has begun a new initiative entitled "Our Lives Our Laws" and is seeking support from communities throughout the United States.

Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of N.Y.C. is the public face of the Mayors organization which includes mayors from more than 600 cities and towns across the country. It gained steam after the tragic shooting of Rep. Gabby Gifford in Tucson, Arizona early in 2011.

In regard to H.R. 822, Bloomberg has sent an email blast to ask Americans for help in opposing the bill, by sending emails to their members of Congress registering their opinion. The mayor believes that if the legislation is passed he would lose the right to protect the people of his city in a way that makes sense based on local factors, including the crime rate.

All major cities in the country deal with crimes committed with guns and Bloomberg's city had more than most. His public call to incarcerate NFL wide receiver Plaxico Burress after he violated N.Y.C's loaded weapon law was his way of gaining the attention of gun owners who might not know how strict the city's law is enforced.

With the creation of Our Lives Our Laws, Bloomberg wants to call attention to what the proposed federal legislation would accomplish, by concentrating on the types of individuals that would be carrying concealed and loaded weapons.

"Domestic abusers, drug addicts, stalkers, people with violent arrest records and even people with absolutely no training who have never held a gun before could be granted a concealed gun permit in another state, and your state would have to honor it -- no matter what."

The online petition drive is designed to counter the lobbying efforts of the well funded NRA lobbyists who have had their way for almost 20 years. That is how long it has been since Congress had the votes to pass gun control legislation.

The initiative to oppose H.R. 822 can be found here, for those interested to learn more or to take part in the petition drive.

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Submitted by nov_284 (not verified) on
Bloomberg needs to go away. I find it absurd that I can drive all the way to sc, and, in fact, throughout most of the us legally carrying concealed the whole way with my Ohio ccw permit but I can't get into PA with it. To me, it seems like it shouldn't be any different than a driver's license. All of the people bloomberg mentions are barred from owning weapons to start with, let alone passing the minimums to get a ccw.

Submitted by nov_284 (not verified) on
Bloomberg needs to go away. I find it absurd that I can drive all the way to sc, and, in fact, throughout most of the us legally carrying concealed the whole way with my Ohio ccw permit but I can't get into PA with it. To me, it seems like it shouldn't be any different than a driver's license. All of the people bloomberg mentions are barred from owning weapons to start with, let alone passing the minimums to get a ccw.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Don't need any gun grabbing constitutional TRAITOR to tell us law abiding citizens of the United States of America that we have the right to protect our "God" given right to life. You can not deny our "God" give right to life. 80+ million legal gun owners in the U.S. will obey the laws of the land, and will fight in the courts and win to protect our "God" given right to life, and the right to protect our families from the murderous criminals that the liberals set free onto the streets of America on a daily basis. Period!

Submitted by Truth and Freedom (not verified) on
Paula Duffy forgot to mention that there are 242 cosponsors of H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, including 34 Democratic congressmen. Only 218 votes are necessary for passage of legislation in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Submitted by Inquisitor (not verified) on
The United States Constitution Article IV - The States Section 1 - Each State to Honor all others Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof. Article VI - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths · · · This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. [The Speaker of the House administers the oath of office as follows: "I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."] The Amendments AMENDMENT II - Ratified 12/15/1791. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. AMENDMENT XIV - Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. · · · Section 5. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
"Mayors Against Illegal Guns" is a misnomer. It should say "Mayors Against ALL Guns." They won't be happy until it's illegal for everyone to own a gun for any reason.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Bill H.R. 822, introduced in the U.S. House by Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed firearm in any state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes. A state`s laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. The bill applies to D.C., Puerto Rico and U.S. territories. It would not create a federal licensing system; rather, it would require the states to recognize each others` carry permits, just as they recognize drivers` licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards. Rep. Stearns has introduced such legislation since 1995. • H.R. 822 recognizes the significant impact of the landmark cases, District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), which found that the Second Amendment protects a fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms and that the protections of the Second Amendment extend to infringements under state law. • Today, 49 states have laws permitting concealed carry, in some circumstances. Forty states, accounting for two-thirds of the U.S. population, have right-to-carry laws. Thirty-six of those have "shall issue" permit laws (including Alaska and Arizona, which also allow carrying without a permit), two have fairly administered "discretionary issue" permit laws, and Vermont (along with Alaska and Arizona) allows carrying without a permit. (Eight states have restrictive discretionary issue laws.) • Citizens with carry permits are more law-abiding than the general public. Only 0.01% of nearly 1.2 million permits issued by Florida have been revoked because of firearm crimes by permit holders. Similarly low percentages of permits have been revoked in Texas, Virginia, and other right-to-carry states that keep such statistics. Right-to-carry is widely supported by law enforcement officials and groups. • States with right-to-carry laws have lower violent crime rates. On average, right-to-carry states have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates, and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, compared to the rest of the country. The seven states with the lowest violent crime rates are right-to-carry states. (Data: FBI.) • Crime declines in states with right-to-carry laws. Since adopting right-to-carry in 1987, Florida`s total violent crime and murder rates have dropped 32 percent and 58 percent, respectively. Texas` violent crime and murder rates have dropped 20 percent and 31 percent, respectively, since enactment of its 1996 right-to-carry law. (Data: FBI.) • The right of self-defense is fundamental, and has been recognized in law for centuries. The Declaration of Independence asserts that "life" is among the unalienable rights of all people. The Second Amendment guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms for "security." • The laws of all states and the constitutions of most states recognize the right to use force in self-defense. The Supreme Court has stated that a person "may repel force by force" in self-defense, and is "entitled to stand his ground and meet any attack made upon him with a deadly weapon, in such a way and with such force" as needed to prevent "great bodily injury or death." (Beard v. United States (1895)) • Congress affirmed the right to own guns for "protective purposes" in the Gun Control Act (1968) and Firearm Owners` Protection Act (1986). In 1982, the Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution described the right to arms as "a right of the individual citizen to privately possess and carry in a peaceful manner firearms and similar arms."

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Everything on this page is so true...starting with the top of the comments section.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Everything on this page is so true...starting with the top of the comments section.

Submitted by unclenunzie (not verified) on
I just love the lies about license holders from other states, how they could be drug addicts, and violent offenders.... what a crock. Such persons are federally prohibited from posessing firearms, and no state sill license such a person. but of course in NYC any criminal thug can get and carry a gun through illegal means. They don't give a crap about the law. MAIG and Blooomberg want to frame this excellent legislation as some assault on the city's "right" to "protect" their people from crime and gun violence. Instead of unconstitutionally disarming the law-abiding public, how about cleaning up the garbage in your town to make it "safe", and leave the self defense civil right alone?

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