'American Chopper' season finale offers glimmer of hope for feuding Teutuls

The season finale came and went for the Teutuls on American Chopper: Senior vs. Junior, but was anything accomplished by the bike-building father and son?

There was no real reason to expect that the season finale of Discovery Channel’s American Chopper: Senior vs. Junior would resolve anything, but fans were no doubt hoping that some kind of progress towards reuniting could be made.

Was it?

After making the necessary concessions for camera set up and idle chit-chat, things got started. From the beginning, Paul Jr. was obviously nervous—he could not stop spinning in his chair and fidgeting—and Senior seemed relaxed with the meeting. What became obvious as well as the meeting moved forward was that Paulie had no intention of meeting anywhere in the middle. His idea of communication is still that of a teenager: “I am right.”

“If that’s so important to you,”Senior said calmly about Paulie’s demand that his view of their previous conversation was the only correct point of view, “then let’s not have the conversation. If that’s so important, that you said, I said, whatever, and that’s going to be the demise of moving forward, then there’s no sense in talking here. If you feel, from that conversation, that you can’t go any further, then that’s your decision.”

Junior seemed stunned for a moment, then said, for the first of many times, “I just feel like nothing’s changed.”

Senior was quick to point out, “You don’t know me no more. How can you say nothing’s changed? You don’t know me no more. You haven’t seen me in two and a half years, and you’re making judgments.” When Junior said that they were having the same conversation they were having three ago, Senior completely disagreed, making a valid point that no long-time viewer of the show can deny:

“No we’re not. We wouldn’t have a conversation if it was three years ago. We’d be yelling and shouting and being in each other’s face. … That’s not the way it is anymore. People change.”

Paulie Refuses to Admit Blame

Well, perhaps just sitting and talking together without screaming and throwing chairs at each other should be seen as progress in the case of the Teutuls. But, Paulie still acts like a petulant child, refusing to even consider the possibility that his father could have changed, and continuing to place the entire blame of their situation on Senior. When Senior accepted responsibility and accountability for his bad-mouthing his sons, Mikey included, Paulie absolved himself, claiming he had never, ever said a word against his father.

“You’re carrying resentment, and you have no right to do that. Because I’ve not said anything bad about you. Ever. Period.” When Senior laughed, Paulie added stubbornly, “Other than the truth.”

Again, everything that comes from the mouth and mind of the younger Teutul is, apparently, unquestionably the only valid point of view, in his opinion.

“You see things the way you see them, I see things the way I see them, and they’re not in the same realm,” Paulie said.

Do they have to be?

Why is it the lynch pin for Paulie that they see everything exactly the same?

“I’ll take that as a start,” Paulie said, rather condescendingly, when Paul Sr. apologized for past hurts, and they finally agreed—didn’t they?—to find a way to move forward together in the future, possibly with a charitable project.

“I’m not willing to give up on my father that easily,” Paul Jr. said to the camera as he left.

Paul Sr. didn’t find the meeting productive. He recognized that his son was hurt, but added, “I don’t think he recognizes the fact that I’ve made some big changes in my life. That kinda hurt a little bit.” But, it was Paul Sr. who made the next move a few days later, suggesting to an apparently speechless Junior that they build a bike together for charity.

One point that should be particularly interesting to all fans (fans of reality television everywhere, in fact) was Senior’s point that this is television. The father and son no longer know each other, because the last three years their only connection to each other has been via TV.

“What am I going to do, call you because you did something on the show? It IS a show,” Senior told Junior, adding, “… the only time we’ll ever talk or see each other is on TV, which is not reality,” a point highlighted by the fact that, after their contentious conversation, they hugged, exchanged, “I love yous,” and Junior, grinning, followed his dad out the door, discussing whether or not Junior would like to see the OCC restaurant.

Can’t these two just get together, have lunch, talk about current events, the weather, whatever, and move forward? With what Paul Jr. displayed in the conference room on the finale, no; he’s still not able to let go of the past. He wants to hang on, be the victim, and unless he admits he’s actually had a part in letting this relationship fall apart, they’ll never come back together. He says he wants a relationship, but he wants to dictate it on his own terms; loving, successful relationships simply do not work like that.

Will the Teutuls end up building a bike together for charity as a father-son activity? Will Paulie ever be able to let go enough to make any progress whatsoever? And, now that Mikey has officially left American Chopper: Senior vs. Junior, will he be able to rebuild his own relationship with his father, as he hopes?

Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Paul Jr. stepping up in relationship with father

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Comments

Submitted by LT (not verified) on
Sounds like this article is blaming Paul jr for the disconnect with Paul sr. Every episode I have seen Paul sr says nasty things about jr - it is clear he is jealous of his sons success and doesnt want to give his son any credit for anything. After the episode where sr built a ramp and made a dummy of his son jr and shot it across the creek i lost all respect for sr. That is his SON his is treating like crap. Sr has problems, obviously. I felt bad for Rick who istrying to be loyal to sr but for him to stand there and watch this scene must have been difficult for him. Sr makes excuses like "it's all in fun" but that was not fun nor funny. He also sabotaged jrs business by trying to steal a tank fabricator and by driving that guy so crazy he fled leaving jr to find another tank fabricator. Sr has been treating jr like crap every step of the way - Paul jr has every right to not trust his father, cuz everytime jr reaches out sr just goes back to his old ways of being a domineering dominating self-righteous jerk. They should just part ways. Sr it seems will never treat his son like an independent man and is always bragging about how much better his shop is, he is so competitive and is a total jerk about it. Sr needs to grow up. And when he said at the end of the finale that jr didnt notice how he had changed he made it all about him again. What was jr supposed to notice in the five minutes they spent talking? I don't have a clue. I wouldnt trust sr he has problems. who cares if he can build bikes and make a lot of money doing that, he still has a lot of bad qualities and needs to stop being so self-involved. he thinks he can buy peoples' loyalty like he did with Cody and the old school chopper that he "gave" Cody then somehow took it back, he is the same with his sons. Not saying sr is all bad - he is a very hard-worker but is not that good with people. I like bikes and i would like to see the show continue in some way but watching srs immaturish ways of constantly bashing jr to the camera i cant choke down anymore.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Paul sr's comments and barbs against jr since he left OCC have been rude and quite frankly embarrassing . Jr always seemed to avoiding insulting his father and the pain he experienced from hearing what his dad would say was always obvious. Now in the last episode Sr. Wants Jr. to believe he has changed just because he hasn't said anything recently?! He should get on his knees and beg forgiveness from his son for all the horrible things he has said about his son on national TV. I truly believe all Paul Jr wants is his father to validate the fact that he has acted like a jelous ass towards his son. But he refuses to admit it. I feel sorry for Jr.

Submitted by jack (not verified) on
No, buddy you're wrong. The whole thing was mostly (not all) Junior's fault, because remember, the original fight was about him coming to work late. Junior was consistantly coming late, and acting like he gets special treatment for being the bosse's son, unlike the other workers who come in On Time.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Jr is a creative talent. You can't deny his designs are just better. He works in a way that feeds his creativity, i.e. short, sharp, highly productive bursts. If that's what it takes to have creative bikes and worldwide notoriety for your brand then that's what it takes. Senior is old-school through and through. I run a creative company and while fundamentals like coming in on time are important, if you're trying to sustain a creative environment you have to let your creative talent breath and bend the rules...IF they are productive which Junior always was. OCC would be NOTHING without Jr and the Black Widow bike. Sr was right too since its his business and he lays the ground-rules, but his management of Jr in particular was horrible. You can't have people follow you when you scream at them and disrespect them daily. Why the hell would Jr come in on time if he's just going to get yelled at as he walks in the door (Watch Season 1 again and look how hurt Paulie is with the aggression from his dad while working on the black widow bike for example. For no reason!). Jr never had a sense of entitlement cos Sr never once gave him a chance for that. Sr was waaaaay too rough on him on a daily basis. Whatever points about Paulie being lazy etc are mute. He built his own company...sacrifices days of sleep to push out incredible products like he's always done. The problem here is that they're both stubborn, and Paulie has a lot of unresolved resentment about his Dad which is understandable. Its all well and good that Senior has moved on, he's been venting and hating Paulie quite openly the last few years...but Junior hasn't said diddly-squat about Sr on-camera. That fundamental lack of respect has always been the case for Senior and his older sons. Don't forget, his other son isn't on speaking terms either.

Submitted by Suzie Carter (not verified) on
I totally agree with your comments. I wouldn't want to show up for work on time and get the treatment Paulie did. It is demoralizing. SR made those comments in front of the entire shop day in and day out. The Black Widow bike was a stand out bike which Paulie designed. OCC would have been gone long ago if not for Paulie. SR plays himself as the victim when all along it is his kids that are the victims. I am also very glad that Paulie is branching out as well in designing other products...like cars. Hats off to JR. I record the show and always fast forward through the OCC stuff. I do wish Rick were with Paulie though.

Submitted by SJP (not verified) on
It seems as though the results of the much-hyped conversation can be evaluated from whichever side of the feud one agrees more with. It does seem that this article was written from the Sr. side. Which is fine, but it is only one point of view. I think that Jr. made valid points with regard to the content of their contentions, just because yelling wasn't involved does not change that fact. From the Jr. side it seems as though Sr. is impatient and controlling, insisting on forcing a parent-child conversation as opposed to an adult-adult one, bringing up the past and not owning up to his aggressive comments on-air. The "if you were offended I apologize" so-called apology was hollow. Imagine yourself in that situation, week after week watching your father empty his complaints about you in a passive aggressive manner as if the Discovery channel's cameras were Oprah's couch or something. No wonder, Jr. was apprehensive. Paul Jr. is fairly straight forward with what he wants, a wait and see approach with small steps, what's wrong with that?

Submitted by jack (not verified) on
No, buddy you're wrong. The whole thing was mostly (not all) Junior's fault, because remember, the original fight was about him coming to work late. Junior was consistantly coming late, and acting like he gets special treatment for being the bosse's son, unlike the other workers who come in On Time.

Submitted by SJP (not verified) on
Neither side is right or wrong, it's a matter of perspective. The issue was about a lot more than just Jr.'s tardiness. From the history of the show it seems to me that Jr. considered himself a partner in OCC and that Sr. treated him more as an employee even though, by virtue of the stock that Jr. had, Jr. was indeed an owner. Revisiting my early contention, imagine yourself in that position, as the creative lead of the business and an integral part of it from inception being treated as just an employee. It seems reasonable to consider from Jr.'s perspective that he was humiliated by this and acted out as a result. Was it completely mature? Probably not. I think that the best thing for Jr. , PJD, was exactly what happened. I don't think that Sr. considered Jr. a business partner and never would.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
Right on. Who wants to work for a bully. Yeppers...Senior has major problems. Jr. may havehad tardiness issues but he was bullied constantly by his father as were his brothers. No wonder the family has issues with Junior.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
Right on. Who wants to work for a bully. Yeppers...Senior has major problems. Jr. may havehad tardiness issues but he was bullied constantly by his father as were his brothers. No wonder the family has issues with Junior.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Def. a one sided article... and more on the wrong side. You didn't hear the part where he just recently stopped talking crap about his son a few months ago?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
This article was just plain garbage and biased. The author must have his head in his ass. Jr may have had his short-comings when he worked with his father but it almost seemed as if he matured after the split and Sr just got worse with his slandering. Sr just got more and more delusional as time passed. You would think he was paid to write this one sided dribble.

Submitted by jack (not verified) on
No, buddy you're wrong. The whole thing was mostly (not all) Junior's fault, because remember, the original fight was about him coming to work late. Junior was consistantly coming late, and acting like he gets special treatment for being the bosse's son, unlike the other workers who come in On Time.

Submitted by lisadiane1015 (not verified) on
This article was right on. Finally someone with enough guts to say it. Jr is a brat. He was late all the time, he left whenever he wanted and couldn't understand why his dad was mad? Really? Him and Mikey both would have NOTHING without their father. NOTHING. Sr didn't have to take Jr on, he didn't have to give his son Daniel the iron works, he didn't have to give Mikey a job after Mikey failed at everything else. Jr has talent, but because of his Father's hardwork he was given the opportunity to show it. His father worked hard to pull himself up from alchol and drugs, I am sorry Jr thinks keeping the shop clean, and showing up on time was a hardship. Jr is a brat who is not the victim. He and Mikey need to quit playing the victim and give their father his due. Don't even get me started on Vinney, a punk who needs to stay out of family business. I hope the father and sons make up, but the sons need to admit fault as well as Sr.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
I watched the show and I still contend that Paul Sr. is a bully. Is it any wonder his family has had problems with him? Paul Jr. took the high road here. He did not slander his father at all...like Paul Sr. did to him. And for Paul Sr to say his comments were all in fun...no....I don't think so. Paul Sr. will always portray himself as the victim.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
I watched the show and I still contend that Paul Sr. is a bully. Is it any wonder his family has had problems with him? Paul Jr. took the high road here. He did not slander his father at all...like Paul Sr. did to him. And for Paul Sr to say his comments were all in fun...no....I don't think so. Paul Sr. will always portray himself as the victim.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
I watched the show and I still contend that Paul Sr. is a bully. Is it any wonder his family has had problems with him? Paul Jr. took the high road here. He did not slander his father at all...like Paul Sr. did to him. And for Paul Sr to say his comments were all in fun...no....I don't think so. Paul Sr. will always portray himself as the victim.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
And for the record...Paul Sr. didn't give nything away.

Submitted by jack (not verified) on
i agree with you

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
Jack...thanks for the reply.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
Jack...thanks for the reply.

Submitted by suzanne carter (not verified) on
Jack...thanks for the reply.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
if you google the goings on of senior when he was owner of the iron works,you would see he didn't give danny the business.senior was sued by turner construction over a job in queens where senior couldn't live up to his end.he lost over a million dollars in the lawsuit.but before the judgement came down,he played a little shell game with the company.giving it to paulie and he in turn sold it to danny.by the time the suit was over of course senior was no longer in the business.he then raided the company everytime he was in trouble,which was the cause of his falling out with danny.senior treats people like they are dispensible and treats jr much harsher than he would any other employee.jr.in turn always talked down to his father like he was an idiot an should just go away.neither should have treated each other the way they did in front of all the others and tv audiences.but w/o it there would have been no show. vinnie just wanted a raise.if it wasn't for him,most of those bikes would never have gotten started,thats why he was in front of the cameras instead of in the background like most of the employees.but senior went right on air and started bad mouthing vinnie and saying that anybody can be replaced.that is a horrible attitude that no worker should have to hear.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
if you google the goings on of senior when he was owner of the iron works,you would see he didn't give danny the business.senior was sued by turner construction over a job in queens where senior couldn't live up to his end.he lost over a million dollars in the lawsuit.but before the judgement came down,he played a little shell game with the company.giving it to paulie and he in turn sold it to danny.by the time the suit was over of course senior was no longer in the business.he then raided the company everytime he was in trouble,which was the cause of his falling out with danny.senior treats people like they are dispensible and treats jr much harsher than he would any other employee.jr.in turn always talked down to his father like he was an idiot an should just go away.neither should have treated each other the way they did in front of all the others and tv audiences.but w/o it there would have been no show. vinnie just wanted a raise.if it wasn't for him,most of those bikes would never have gotten started,thats why he was in front of the cameras instead of in the background like most of the employees.but senior went right on air and started bad mouthing vinnie and saying that anybody can be replaced.that is a horrible attitude that no worker should have to hear.

Submitted by Bruce (not verified) on
Being in a difficult relationship with my father for over a year now, I can relate to what Junior and Senior are going through, it's not fun. What people have to realize is that words can cut deep. We can forgive, but not forget. My deduction is, is Senior should step up and make suggestions to get to know Junior on a personal level, i.e., go fishing, have a beer alone on Seniors porch, simple things. We only get one shot at this lifetime experience, make the best of it....no second chances are allowed.

Submitted by Bruce (not verified) on
Being in a difficult relationship with my father for over a year now, I can relate to what Junior and Senior are going through, it's not fun. What people have to realize is that words can cut deep. We can forgive, but not forget. My deduction is, is Senior should step up and make suggestions to get to know Junior on a personal level, i.e., go fishing, have a beer alone on Seniors porch, simple things. We only get one shot at this lifetime experience, make the best of it....no second chances are allowed.

Submitted by Greywolf (not verified) on
Look I hear all of what everyone is saying. I had a similar relationship with my father and only made up 3 months before he passed. What I don't think everyone realizes is that it is wrongs on both sides. Do not forget that JR did take advantage or tried to of his being the son and being lazy, that is an all too common thing in life. With dad I cna do what I want and without I gotta work now. Then when he left he did take employees with him which was not cool for any reason, start your own thing with your own guys not steal from dad. That is always left out. Sr. was a bully but now realizes his own mortality and just wants a relationship so really if it can happen let the past go, that is SR.'s (and my dads generation) thought to try to make amends by starting over. Jr needs to let the past go and SR needs to realize how hurt he made them but also JR is not guiltless either. To say that is not accurate nor healing.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Jr. only took employees that were fired or had quit years prior. In business you normally deal with people you are comfortable with.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
People have a right to work where they want. How many good people did senior let go or fire ? Vinny, cody, nub, justin, and on and on it goes. Senior had a great relationship with everyone, ntil he got too popular and too rich, an all to common scenario in business nowadays. and then forgot that EVERYONE had a small part to play in occ success. look at vinny, a fantastic staff member from the start. What promotion did he get ? Did he get a raise, why not, why didnt he get more important roles in occ ? Thats my major issue with senior. As for paul and his `wife`racheal, she just loooks a little subdued and cold to me. Not saying shes a bad person, but she fits the blonde bimbo stereotype lol.

Submitted by Renner (not verified) on
If Sr. wants a relationship with Jr., I suggest that he start by saying something nice about the work done by PJD. Jr. has a real talent. PJD buids bikes in a different way than OCC. Sr. needs to recognize that they can be in the same business and still admire each others work. A little praise for his son would go a long way.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
No, he took the office guy, who was setting up the selling of the bikes, and also took some of the vendors like Nub the painter. So yeah you want comfortable but also most businesses that run the same thing have a time limit of when you can go work for a competitor, or else lawsuits happen that is a fact. And yes Sr can say stuff nice about his son's bike and has I have watched the after show in which he said some of his stuff was Cool, and some he didn't like, but that is normal of any relationship, you are supposed to like everything just cause you are related?? And son doesn't say anything nice about OCC, in fact has made comments negative about it. I am just trying to be fair here, nothing is ever one sided unless you are a POW. Father and son have 2 different ways of getting things done, nobody is wrong there, father screwed up early, and has been getting better and son needs to learn to love again, simple as that. No need for blaming or looking for stuff, they need to heal now. But son did steal employees, and that was not cool to father and why father got angry and sued. Especially one who was doing the outreach to secure the bikes for companies to build. He is the muscular long haired guy. forgot name but he was under contract to OCC and working and left to go with son. That is stealing a key employee with names and numbers of customers of OCC and that is a bad thing for son to do.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Nub had quite painting for occ a year before jr. Left occ and the office guy your referring to had been let go from occ 4 months prier to Jr asking him to come work for him. Sr gave these facts to his own lawyer before he tried to sue Jr. And he didn't take vendors he just used the same ones to get the equipment he needed he bought all of that none of it was given to him everyone needs to get there facts straight. As far as Sr and Jr relationship I have respect for Sr for him trying to build a relationship with his son and admitting he did some things he shouldn't have. As well as I have respect for Jr for not giving up. Its hard working for family and building a business together. Jr is very talented building bikes the old school way. Sr and occ build in a new school way. I love the show and for the most part I like pjd bikes better than occ. My opinion.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Ill keep it short and to the point. Yes, seniors way of doing things is old school. Yes, he built everything up from scratch, yes, without him the family wouldnt have had much as a head start in life, and become millionaires in the process, with worldwide fame. HOWEVER, so what if junior came in late ? He wasnt a normal employee, he was a shareholder in occ, and being a shareholder affords you certain perks over and above the normal staff members. I felt sorry for junior the crap he used to take on the show, with his father constantly looking for excuses to rip him to pieces, telling him hes a nobody and cant do jack himself. I also love senior, and i can understand why he feels all of this is owed to him by his sons, the success, money etc. But in closing all i will say is, there both right, and there both wrong. At the end of the day, paul junior now has his independance, his own company, and no one to yell at him. He also happens to blow occ out of the water ( my opinion ) with his bike creations. For seniors part, hes now getting on in age, and will soon need to start thinking who, if anyone, will takeoever the business when hes gone 6 feet under. i JUST HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT SENIOR MORE THAN JUNIOR. Look at mikey, the poor guy was running about asking junior for help to get a job or income in one of the shows. For a father who has become a multi millionaire, i think it sucks the way he let mikey go, and mikey subsequently ended up with alcohol problems due to it. The show got popular due to the close knit simplicity of a family and few close workers in some back workshop in orange county. Thats why the world loved them. Now, there just another one of a multitude of over grown corporates. I feel it will never be the same again.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
If I was to choose,jr.would definitely be my builder.anyone who watches the show will constantly see senior saying,"that's good enough."jr.always does a little extra.always trying to make it better.senior just wants to get it out the door. even when jr.was at occ,sr. would always get pissed when jr would want to add something to make the bike better.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Everyone has so many strong opinions about the Teutuls based upon watching a T.V. show. In reality we haven’t a clue what the Teutuls have all gone through and we are in no position to judge! I admire Vinnie and Rick for staying neutral through all this and we all would do well to do the same. They are truly great friends to the Teutuls and I would be honored to have friends like that! As a public viewing audience we are not helping this family make amends by stirring the pot and making things worst! I’m sure they read and ponder a lot about these news sites and blogs. I can only imagine that the Teutuls situation is a result of a life time of challenges, experience, stress, and disappointments for all of them. The Teutuls need each other more than ever if they are to truly be happy! I believe they all realize this, but at the moment they just don’t know how. We can help them by not bringing up the pass on who said what and who was at fault. When we die all that matters is how much we love our family and how important they are to us. I believe that our experiences and love we have for each other is all we take with us when we leave this life. Time is precious and after the death of Sr.’s mother I believe they all realize this and they would like to all try to make amends before someone else in their family passes away. Somehow the Teutuls need to find a way to completely and unconditionally forgive each other and bury the past. Some family members may feel that there may be issues that still need to be resolved and expect an apology for that incident, but if they can understand that that may be asking too much of the other person they need to be the better man and forgive the other person completely and never bring up the issue again. We need to forgive when we do wrong to others, but we also need to forgive when others have wronged us. I would hope that someday the Teutuls can all see past the issues and the deep hurt that they all feel so they can frankly forgive and love each other as a family should. Please public, let’s all try to be more positive when we talk about the Teutuls.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Yes, No.22 is completely right, remember we are watching a TV show that is edited, who knows what is really said, but the main thing is people are human and don't always have the answers but opinion is an easy thing to give not living in there houses. Let's hope instead that they come to a realization that family is family and work it out.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
The mistake in this relationship was that Jr. and Mikey received too much, too soon from Sr. Remember the comment Jr. made about "Sr's nice house that Jr. made for him." Well Jrs house is so large most people wouldn't earn one in their entire lifetime. But, he expected more from OCC. Mikey made a comment about how father's were supposed to "TAKE CARE" of their children, when he had no health insurance. He doesn't live in the real world! He isn't 18 or 21! Sr. should have not been so generous early, because he had no place to go in the future. He could have told his children, nothing now. You will get it all in my WILL. Then we would have seen how Jr. and Mikey survived. They might have quit and been out of work. Would PJD & Mikey's studio even exist w/o salaries from Discovery? Cymbalta in NYC

Submitted by Barber2012 (not verified) on
Your review of the finale was both bizarre, one-sided, and clearly written from the point of view of someone with an agenda towards Paul Jr. The mood of your review smacks greatly of a parent who always feels they are correct and that children, no matter their age, are always petulant, condescending and cannot resist the urge to stomp their feet when they believe they're right. Your review was so clearly biased it makes me wonder if you've actually seen the entire series. Tell me, did you laugh truculently when Paul Sr. crashed his son in effigy off a dirt bike? Have you not heard his rude and unkind remarks towards anything Paul Jr. does? Heavens, what would your response have been if Paul Jr. had said similar things towards his father? You probably would have self-immolated. The problem with people like you is that you support someone like Paul Sr. because more than likely you have failed as well as a parent. You are in that odd club of people who feel that regardless, children are never right no matter what behavior is doled out by their parents. You feel that parents can act as child-like, disrespectful, or narcissistic as they want without any kind of consequence. You gather with the other parents at work and complain about how ungrateful your children are, and how they should all get down on their knees and bow to you on a daily basis. Yet, strangely, you are incapable of admitting or copping to any and/or all of your faults. What is most hilarious is that your article came off as if it were written by someone with the maturity of a 16 year old. Don't quit your day job (Cuz I am 100% sure it ain't journalism!)

Submitted by johnnie1975 (not verified) on
As u said at the end of ur recap of the finale....stay tuned...and that's what. Sr and jr both are counting on. The almighty dollar and that's it. They've forgivin each other and I'm happy for them..mikey is the one suffering silently now and the one who is doing it off camera. Not makeing his private life a spectacle. Good for u mikey. As for the show...yea there going to continue to be conflicting sides but face it...that's what is selling the show now so there doing it for the money.

Submitted by Glen (not verified) on
If you had all the thing done to you by your father that sr has done to jr you wouldnt be so quick to just forget it and move on . Put it this way Paul Sr is a idiot and has proven it over and over again and do not know how he watches himself on tv and isnt embarassed

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
It must be me because after watching AC for a while I started to see very clearly why Sr was always on Jrs Case. Senior is far from perfect but he had a business with many employees to run. Jr seemed to only be concerned with the limelight and couldn't be bothered by the small details that go into running a business. Being a small shareholder does not give one the right to ignore and disregard to major shareholder. Jr was and is very creative but was a very disruptive force at OCC based on what was shown on TV. I found it hysterical when Jr fired Ody for back talking him almost immediately. The exact same thing Jr seemed to think was his birthright to do to Sr. Its pretty clear that Sr no matter what anyone thinks of him started 2 very successful business's that provided extremely well for his family and his ungrateful sons. Perhaps as Jrs Business grows he will finally grow up, Hopefully.. If I were Sr I would have never made the call to Jr. Jr is immature and thinks he is perfect. He has repeatedly badmouthed his father and OCC on the show yet with a straight face and righteous indignation, he now denies it. I feel truly sorry for Sr that he has kids who have grown up to be self centered ungrateful jerks.. Boo hoo he didn't kiss their butts enough. They sound like the typical youth of today who seem to be born with a sense of entitlement and indignation that their parents and the world do not bow down to them on everything.

Submitted by Avery (not verified) on
I found a lot of humor in the writers comments. Apparently he either doesn't have a clue or is on Sr.'s payroll. To be fair, Sr. has changed a bit but not very much. He is a bit more mellow but any father that would sue his own son and treat an employee better than his own flesh and blood is a worthless father. Case in point, he went to Jason's wedding but would not attend Paulie's even after Paulie was gracious enough to send him an invitation despite their ongoing troubles. I think if Paulie was able to put their differences aside, even for a day, Sr. should have as well. Then there was the build off. Yeah, Jessie James builds bikes that are more along the lines that Sr. likes to be around but you still don't tell the world that his bike is better than Jr's. And by the way, America thought Jr's was far superior to the others so Sr. was way off. Finally, Sr. needs to take a long hard look at himself. What he says is jokes or just letting off steam can be taken as hurtful by his sons. Creating an effigy of Jr. and launching him off a ramp was tasteless and mean. Jr. has been nothing but gracious to his father even going as far as telling people it really hurt him when his father was booed at the build off. I'm not saying that Jr. isn't without his own faults, but a lot of Jr's faults can be directly traced to his father. He can be hot headed and stubborn but he has actually grown and matured since he left OCC and is out of that toxic environment. All I know is that as a father, I would give up any pride, my business, my life for my children. It's Paul Sr. that is acting like the spoiled brat, not like the father he should be.

Submitted by RoyRodgers (not verified) on
This post is totally bias. It says that Junior is the bad guy and senior is trying to mend things. Senior didn't change that much. He keeps saying that he wants to get back to his family but the next minute he is trashing them all (specially Junior). In the post theres the idea that Junior wants everything the way he wants, on his terms. It is false to say that Senior doesn't want the same thing! In the (email) "conversation" between Senior and Mickey, Senior kept saying that he wanted to be with Mickey again, that he missed him. But when Mickey imposes conditions (in a certain way he is right to do so; he was hurt bad by his own father) Senior backs down and imposes his own rules... over and over again! So saying that Senior wants a relationship with his sons and Junior doesn't is a load of bull!!! Neither wants a relationship period because no one is going to give in. Neither Senior, or junior or even Mickey (and i'm not talking about the rest of the family that Senior alienate).

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