Mountain Men: Will Eustace keep his land in Season Two?

Mountain Men ended its first season last night and, true to form, it was ridiculous.

Season One of Mountain Men is over.

What a colossal waste of an opportunity for a great show.

My hopes were high from the very beginning for this show. It could have been a modern-day Alone in the Wilderness. Mountain Men could have actually taken three individuals living in various mountain areas, and shown viewers what it is like to live “off-the-grid” to varying extents. It could have presented viewers with real situations and real people. It could have even—gasp—offered viewers some knowledge that they could have walked away with after each 60-minute sitting, something that was real and perhaps even helpful to someone living in another situation, one not necessarily as extreme or drastic as the ones in which these three were said to reside.

Instead, producers of Mountain Men presented viewers with a campy farce each week, making its stars into presumable caricatures of themselves and insulting fans with gun switches; having Marty's gun disappear into thin air on more than one occasion; and, really, coming up with some of the most contrived, over-the-top, “mountain men” drama a roomful of never-owned-a-gun writers could dream up for the small screen.

Could Marty, Tom and Eustace be the “real deal?” They could be, but how would anyone watching this show know? According to the History Channel, great oudoorsman Eustace is unaware of how to use the word "misfire" appropriately (no, for the final time, it does NOT mean "failure to achieve desired results" in the presented situation)--is that the "real deal?" And, are viewers at fault if they laugh and point out this and many other production misfires--yes, failures to achieve desired results--throughout the show?

Of course they aren't; the producers are.

Reality Programming CAN Be Great

There are some excellent reality shows out there these days, featuring real people doing real things. Swamp People, also on the History Channel, comes to mind. For Alaska living, Flying Wild Alaska (Discovery Channel) is good, as is Alaska: The Last Frontier (Discovery Channel). Dual Survival (Discovery Channel) gives viewers some real knowledge for potential life-threatening situations. And, of course, the king of all things-most-of-us-could-never-do reality shows, Deadliest Catch (Discovery Channel), consistently gives people good reality television. Are any of these “production free,” with no off-camera manipulation of scenes or TV magic in editing? No, of course not. But, they are well-done shows, and they respect not only the stars, but the fans, as well, by striving to give viewers shows that, in the world of reality television, are realistic. 100% “real,” maybe not; but realistic, yes.

Mountain Men could have been one of those shows; it definitely is not.

Season Two of Mountain Men will bring back Marty, Tom and Eustace, and will add a new “mountain man” to the gang. Perhaps, given the not-so-impressive feedback the show has received overall, the producers for this History Channel show will strive to give viewers something better next go around. If not, it will still probably be one of the funniest hours on television, intentional or otherwise. Until then, let’s just hope that Eustace made it back to Turtle Island Preserve without being overtaken by that overwhelming brushfire he encountered on his way into Boone.

Stay tuned.

Image: Wikimedia Commons via Ken Thomas

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Can you tell me when Season 2 begins? Thanks!

At this point, I don't believe History Channel has announced anything regarding a date; if/when I get any info on it, however, I'll be sure to let fans know here on Huliq. :)

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
Please NO!! Not another season this stupid stuff. COME ON MARTY!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
When Marty comes up to the final peak before he sees his planr, he had no sleeping bag on the bottom of his backpack! When they show him again, he has a sleeping bag with a string hanging down!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
When they go to get the truck because of the dead battery both men plus the dog leave. why leave the extra vehicle. There are so many production problems with this show it's silly

Submitted by headlesshorsewoman (not verified) on
Cracks me up that they protrayed Eustace not only riding into town on horseback which supposedly took 5 hours, but cutting a trail to get to a shortcut, shoeing his own horses, not to mention making his own shoes. Mustve dedicated 3 days to make a ten mile trip that wouldve cost 4 bucks in fuel. Oh sorry, 8 bucks round trip. And theyve shown he has access to a small truck, soooo. Its a shame that they make an obviously well educated man, look like an idiot. Just because we are country and prefer country ways, doesnt make us stupid.

Quite the opposite, I'd say. My grandfather never made it past the sixth grade and was country as country gets but, I swear, that man could do ANYTHING--you could have set him out in a field miles from another soul, and he could have built a house, grown/raised his food, made his clothes, etc. Whatever he needed, he could have done it. He was, in my opinion, one of the smartest people I've ever met. Perhaps Eustace is like that, too, I don't know, but these producers have turned him into a joke, so I doubt we'll ever know. Could have been a great show.

Submitted by CoyoteJoe (not verified) on
No, the production makes Tom and Marty look foolish with silly voice over drama but they don't "make" useless do anything. He is obviously willing and eager to play the roll, willing to endanger his horse and his friend just to make an impression. If he didn't want to burn a gallon of gas he could have walked down to his mail box and thumbed a ride to town, but that wouldn't have fit the image. And how did he acquire an $85,000 lien on his beloved land? For a guy who has stated (I heard his voice and saw his lips move) that he lives on less then $2,000 per year, that is quite a debt, he'd have to clear cut his land to pay that off in firewood. LOL

He's being compensated, going back for more in Season Two, no telling what else he'll get into. But, I still lay the brunt of the blame on the producers; they wanted to make a silly show, and they did a great job of just that; the production is shameless. And, yes, I well recall his "under $2,000 per year" statement--LOL

Submitted by devawn (not verified) on
EUSTACE owes that money in back taxes. Cant help but to think that if he would have put this much energy in keeping up with his taxes he wouldn't be goin thru all this. Good luck to him hope he can keep his land,

Submitted by NC Lawyer (not verified) on
The paperwork they showed was a Notice of Rights to Claim Exemptions. That is only sent to a judgment debtor in a civil matter. Exemptions to not apply to tax debts. Look at North Carolina General Statue 1C-1601. He was given notice to claim those exemptions. I explained all this in another post. But that is NOT a tax debt that he was noticed about. Does he also have a tax lien? Maybe. Probably. He comes off like a complete loser.

Submitted by devawn (not verified) on
Oh I must of misunderstood what I read. Thank you for clarifying that for me. Still hope him the best of luck he's my favorite.

Submitted by Carol Harris (not verified) on
I thought the same thing. There's no way a horse person would saddle up a 'bush' horse & ride through a busy town (& brush fire). I thought that was TOTALLY ludicrous & unnecessary. That poor horse was so sweated up, his coat was matted when they finally stopped at the Town Hall. Hope the producers of the show hire someone that really knows about living in the bush (I do) to consult on future shows & stop making these guys look like idiots.

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
Let's go one better than that. Fire everyone associated with the show and cancel the whole stupid thing. COME ONE MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
It apears that Eustance is not an experienced horseman..the way is holding the bridal is a dead give-a-way..And it also appears as if the guy is really scared riding in traffic

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Eustace rode a horse cross country when he was younger

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. So what? COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by NJ Viewer (not verified) on
I hope the History Channel execs see these posts and make serious adjustments -- if there is a Season 2! Great premise, fabulous scenery, likeable characters (esp. the Montana folks) but absolutely farcical situations. About as far from “reality” as the dumb show producers can make it. An experienced Alaskan leaves camp to tend a winter trap line without a gun. Sure he did, just like he used a broken down snow machine that, from scene-to-scene found and lost its trailer, and whose ‘electrical problem’ required a replacement engine, but, of course, broke down again. Then, he flies into a storm and has to set down overnight. Death-defying? No – just stupid. If he is so careless, how has he managed to survive in the bush this long? And, what about Marty shooting game immediately after he landed his plane? Doesn’t the Alaskan game provision, “it’s against the law to (hunt) until 3 AM until the day after you have flown” apply to Marty? Then there was the absurd North Carolina rifle sighting sham and ‘misfires.’ (Hey Eustace – you know that a gun does not ‘misfire’ when you leave the chamber empty! Why didn’t you explain that to the producer?) And what about his absurd water pipe clog; chasing a phantom ‘poacher’, who barely managed to escape on a hidden ATV, and in the final episode, the guys “clear” a new “shortcut” that reaches the road at, (surprise!) the very same spot the ATV poacher had escaped on the previous episode! Even Tom and his wife in Montana do stupid things. In the last episode, Tom was, for a moment, gone and his wife worried he may have been taken by the bear. I guess she didn’t see the floodlight flashing around in back of the shed Tom was investigating. Canned nonsense.

Submitted by ericman1947 (not verified) on
You can pick apart most programs and find portions to which you object. Even the best ones. I fail to see why you put so much time and energy into making mountains out of molehills. The program is interesting to me even if there are a few flaws, and I live in a log cabin without power on 40 acres in the Ozarks. It is surely more interesting than watching another pawn shop or 'picker' program.

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
So you live in a Log Cabin WITHOUT power in the Ozarks - Right? I call BULLSHIT. So you must have the same electrical power plant the Useless Conway has to power your TV, Computer, Cable / Satellite box and Refrigerator. I guess you have an electric sawmill too. Got graze on some Kale. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Hey guys, let us enjoy a clean, moral show that is truly entertaining. Mountain Men fits that bill. I will welcome a new season for them.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
My husband and I enjoy this show very much! It is much better than most of the garbage you see on tv.Thank you history channel! Looking forward to season 2.

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
I'm betting the number will be "0". Let's keep our fingers crossed that there won't be a Season 2. COME ON MARTY!!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Had high hopes for this series but this program is complete trash. Unadulterated trash. It is true the story lines and editing made these three men look foolish. But EVERY word EVERY one of them uttered was said to deceive and manipulate the audience more often than not and in the end it was THEIR decision to play the fool. Conway is the biggest offender. Virtually everything he did was without common sense. Did these people really think they could pull the wool over everyone's eyes? The saw mill is not operated by a single phase generator fed by a clogged up line. No one lets someone else sight in their rifle. No one rides a horse into town to dispute a defaulted judgment. On and on. Conway and the rest were all willing participants in the fraud and deception. So why get so upset when we all know that most of reality television isn't? Because this program shows zero respect for its audience. Shame on these three men for cashing in their reputation and integrity for chump change. If the producers told me to ride a horse through traffic for drama I would tell them to shove it. I am far from perfect. It just seems like common sense to NOT let someone cast you as a fool. You know....common sense. That trait that Conway claims he never sees in others will failing to display any himself.....

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Interesting and truthful review on an over the top bit of fiction. At least the heroic passages were fictionalized, while the sycophantic fawning is laughable. Eustace was a fool LONG before this program aired. scathingweekly.blogspot.com/2010/12/book-review-last-american-man-by.html

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I've had the pleasure of meeting Conway at Turtle Island twice. Where are your grounds for calling Eustace a moron? Someone who's started out their young adult life by making the bold decision of moving into a tent at age 17 is anything but a moron. I think you are, though.

Submitted by Coyotejoe (not verified) on
You're absolutely right, Eustace is no fool, it's the people who give him money who are foolish and those "interns" who give him money for the privilege of doing his dirty work are total idiots but he would be a fool to turn it down. LOL

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
Makeing the "Bold Decision" of living in a tent at 17 doesn't automatically make it a good decision. I would call it a "Bold Ill-Advised - BAD Decision" on his part. Your're right, the term MORON may not be strong enough to describe him. Maybe COMPLETE DUMBASS. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I love this show. I don't notice, the things most of you are talking about. what show are you in? if you don't like this show. don't watch it. simple.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Think Mountain Men leaves many questions? Watch Yukon Men. Here is another "reality" show, that leaves many questions. Is it legal for instance to claim that your sustenance fishing for salmon, yet one cast member readily admits that they need the fish to feed his dogs, and get this, at a rate of 400lbs a day! That should be illegal if it's not already..Another show, cast members go all out to hunt down a supposedly "dangerous" bear, that's been spotted at the local garbage dump. No sign of it within miles of the dump when they go look for it..One show a moose is shot out of season, by a "non-native", as food for a funeral, Is that legal? Appears a Grizzly's life may be in danger on the next show, since it actually had the "nerve" to eat some salmon left hanging unprotected, alongside the river. I hunt myself, so am not an anti, but I sure don't appreciate the hunting ethics of these castaways..

Submitted by salmon without ... (not verified) on
the laws in alsaka about hunting and trapping differ greatly than anywhere else in the united states. im not an expert, but i think each village also get to kind of make up their own laws, in most states it is illegal to hunt/kill bears, but in alaska if they are a threat to your safetly and livlihood i think its legal to kill them. the way these people live is a way of life and if the people around them arent offended by the way they live then whty impose laws? thats whats wrong with this country already too much government interfering in our personal lives. the reason that the salmon are running low is because the government has changed laws and now allow large corporations to go in there and catch salmon with little to no restrictions, which isnt fair to the locals who depend on it for their families. who cares if they kill a bear? who cares if they kill a caribou or a moose? there are plenty of them out there, and aside rom the bear and the wolf they utilized every portion of those animals. in my opinion, they shouldnt be feeding the dogs the salmon when they need it for their families and there are so many of those dogfish around, but its just that, my opinion and why should they care what i think?? imposing a law on not feeding dogs salmon is like telling me i cant buy meat at the supermarket and feed it to my dog....imposing laws on bears is like telling me i cant spray bug spray around my yard to keep mosquitoes from biting my kids and infecting them with disgusting illnesses (potentially)

Submitted by salmon without ... (not verified) on
the laws in alsaka about hunting and trapping differ greatly than anywhere else in the united states. im not an expert, but i think each village also get to kind of make up their own laws, in most states it is illegal to hunt/kill bears, but in alaska if they are a threat to your safetly and livlihood i think its legal to kill them. the way these people live is a way of life and if the people around them arent offended by the way they live then whty impose laws? thats whats wrong with this country already too much government interfering in our personal lives. the reason that the salmon are running low is because the government has changed laws and now allow large corporations to go in there and catch salmon with little to no restrictions, which isnt fair to the locals who depend on it for their families. who cares if they kill a bear? who cares if they kill a caribou or a moose? there are plenty of them out there, and aside rom the bear and the wolf they utilized every portion of those animals. in my opinion, they shouldnt be feeding the dogs the salmon when they need it for their families and there are so many of those dogfish around, but its just that, my opinion and why should they care what i think?? imposing a law on not feeding dogs salmon is like telling me i cant buy meat at the supermarket and feed it to my dog....imposing laws on bears is like telling me i cant spray bug spray around my yard to keep mosquitoes from biting my kids and infecting them with disgusting illnesses (potentially)

Submitted by Grizzly Mamma (not verified) on
I absolutely LOVE THIS SHOW! I hope there is a season 2, and I can't wait to see it!!!

Submitted by Grizzly Mamma (not verified) on
I absolutely LOVE THIS SHOW! I hope there is a season 2, and I can't wait to see it!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
i love this show too, and can't wait until season two starts. Does anyone know when that is?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
i love this show too, and can't wait until season two starts. Does anyone know when that is?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
They have started filming and should start airing in the late spring, sometime around the same time as when they aired last year. It seems so far away, doesn't it?

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
Way too soon for me. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
We get it. You don't like the show. Check the manual, you can probably change the channel with your remote; so it won't matter. Please go away, your opinions are duly noted.

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
You get it? I really don’t think so. This blog is a public forum where the viewers can post personal comments, both good and bad about the show. Other than offensive material, I know of no limitations that have been placed on this blog. Thus individuals such as me, and even you, can freely make comments about the show, the characters in involved and the other comments entered in this blog. I fully intend to do just that. I didn’t create this stupid show others did. They deserve whatever they get. Apparently you get an email notification (just like I do) every time a comment is posted to this blog. Like the remote, do yourself a favor and “opt-out” of the email notifications. This will save you a lot frustration in the future. Unfortunately for you I know that you can’t do that. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Believe me, we get it. You don't like the show and no one else is allowed to without facing your obnoxious wrath. You're a stupid moron that just likes to cause trouble, so I'll do the same. It can go on forever, if that gives you pleasure. It is a public forum and if this is how you choose to spend your time, then let's do it. You're a moron, you're a moron, you're a moron....so on and so forth. I have opted out of the comment notification, but it hasn't taken effect yet. Before I go, I'll be clear, if you think you're cute or constructive or anything else positive, I doubt if anyone else does. Just because you can repeat the same tirade over and over, doesn't mean you have to. What's your point, besides calling people who have differing opinions than yours names? Why? Does it make you feel bigger to try and make others feel smaller? If other viewers choose to enjoy the good things in this show, let it be and quit calling them names. Like you said, it's a forum to discuss the show. So, discuss it intelligently and quit calling everyone that likes it morons. If you don't think your unconstructive comments are offensive, think again. You're a obnoxious bully and you should understand that everyone on her could do the same and just continuously call you names, but what will that accomplish? Give it up.

Submitted by Elmo Bannabush (not verified) on
Bye-Bye!! COME ON MARTY!!

Submitted by retiredvoma (not verified) on
Elmo ... really??? If your opinion was something more than notifying everyone how bad (you think) the show is it might be interesting reading. This reality show is the same as any other reality program, most of which I do not watch. If I thought for a second any of this was real then I'd admit to being a moron. Marty way up in Alaska by himself suffering all his woes ???? There's an entire filming crew with him. I'm pretty sure he isn't in any danger. Eustice .... he is PORTRAYED as a hick. He was obviously smart enough to sign a contract to make a few bucks. More than likely more than most regular folks. It's entertainment. If you're not being entertained to some degree then you're a fool for even watching it and even more of a fool to complain about it. .... or maybe you are drawn to the show because it provides some entertainment for you but you refuse to admit that reality shows provide some interest for you.

Submitted by retiredvoma (not verified) on
Elmo ... really??? If your opinion was something more than notifying everyone how bad (you think) the show is it might be interesting reading. This reality show is the same as any other reality program, most of which I do not watch. If I thought for a second any of this was real then I'd admit to being a moron. Marty way up in Alaska by himself suffering all his woes ???? There's an entire filming crew with him. I'm pretty sure he isn't in any danger. Eustice .... he is PORTRAYED as a hick. He was obviously smart enough to sign a contract to make a few bucks. More than likely more than most regular folks. It's entertainment. If you're not being entertained to some degree then you're a fool for even watching it and even more of a fool to complain about it. .... or maybe you are drawn to the show because it provides some entertainment for you but you refuse to admit that reality shows provide some interest for you.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
So glad to hear there are others who really enjoy this show. All you disapprovers need to change channels and get a life!

Submitted by Larry (not verified) on
I agree with everything you guys have commented on. The producers of this show need to be replaced with some down to earth individuals. How stupid do these guys think their viewers are?....ride a horse 10 miles after thrashing thru the woods, cant afford gas to go 10 miles.,give me a friggin break.

Submitted by Whocares (not verified) on
Eustace could have been made out to be a true "woodsman" but instead the producers made him out to look like an idiot. As mentioned earlier, no true hunter lets another man sight in his gun with what was it, 3 bullets? With a good solid rest it takes 2 shots to find out for sure where you are hitting. Once you determine where you are hitting you must then click the scope up down left or right to sight it in. I live in WV and have hunted for over 40 years and I have yet to see one of my redneck buddies know exactly how many clicks it takes to adjust a scope the first try. I never start testing my guns without at least 10 bullets. Eustace knows better than this and should have never let the producers portray him in such a way. And the poor old boy that was responsible for sighting in his gun took the blame because Eustace missed an easy shot. He was complaining about it from the get go when he realized how few bullets old tightwad Eustace gave him. Eustace owes a bunch of money to someone and may need to sell some of his land to pay his debt. I don't even want to go into the horse ride to town. Holy cow, that was just about the dumbest thing I have ever seen. No human in North Carolina is that stupid. I mean really. Clear a trail through the woods for the horse and build a fire by a big rock to warm up to save time going to a place he could have just caught a ride to. Come on guys! If you are going to get us interested in a show like this why don't you make it real? I want to know why he does not have a job and has he ever had a job. If he is not going to work a job (which is his business) show us how he eats and what he eats and does he power his house with the generator and if not....why. Make it real.....man. One final thing...I wonder if he really just goes out in the garden and grazes like a cow when he eats cale for breakfast? I think I would have at least washed it off in the creek in case a dog peed on it. I guess that is the difference between a WV redneck and a "mountain man" lol

Submitted by NC Lawyer (not verified) on
I have four degrees, including a Juris Doctor, and there is no way in hell I could have said it better. God bless West ByGod.

Whocares, you do not know how I laughed when I saw him eating that kale like that ... same thoughts went through my mind ... LOL

Submitted by NC Lawyer (not verified) on
I thought that maybe he grew some kind of kale I hadn't seen before but all I could think of was why not just eat yard grass? If you're going to eat garnish, try some parsley?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I spent almost a year with Eustace, I was there when the tv producers came to pitch the show. The "lawsuit" is from a family suing because years back a little girl lost her eye in a sling/rock accident. It didn't happen on turtle island, but it did happen as she got off the bus to show up for camp . Eustace didn't do it, he wasn't present when it happened but due to it being caused in entry to his camp and by one of his staff..yes the family is seeking damages.. Also the man relies on gasoline, has at least 10 working trucks, two backhoes, tractors, chainsaws, and lives quite more comfertabley than tv would lead you to believe. I am ashamed to admit that I respected him so much, living there and then seeing it all get tv'd up...He's a sellout. That sawmill that turned off? It's powered by an old diesel fueled tractor engine, the hydro plant had nothing to do with the sawmill, TOTAL BS!!!

Submitted by CoyoteJoe (not verified) on
Thank You, We all can speculate but it is good to hear a first hand report from someone who knows.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
You are correct. The hydro generator was installed by Mirco Hydro Power and has a GPE (gross power estimate) of 2100 watts. A worm drive skilsaw uses about 1500 watts. You would have a hard time running a skilsaw and a hair dryer at the same time let alone a saw mill. Complete BS. Eustace is a con man selling an ideology that he only stands behind when it suits him. When it doesn't he sees no conflict. In the end it is all about the money and projecting the phoney facade of a concerned naturalist. Coincidentally this show will prove to be his downfall since all of his lies and deceptions will finally be exposed for all to see.

Submitted by Whocares (not verified) on
We have a cabin in WV for hunting and fishing and it is way back in the Mountains. We have no water or electricity so we did what we had to do. The cabin is wired for a generator and we added a bathroom with toilet, shower, sink and hot and cold running water which also runs to the kitchen sink. How did we do it you ask? I'm going to tell you even if you didn't ask.lol We built a very heavy duty platform beside the new bathroom to support 2 - 320 gallon totes (please forgive my spelling). Next we ran new gutters from our metal roof and filtered the water through a 5 gallon bucket that has layers of gravel and sand. The water runs into the first holding tank and they both fill up at an equal level because of the way we have it plumbed. If we get too much rain the second one has an overflow. We added a shallow well pump and a LP hot water tank, plumbed it all up and it works just fine. We don't stay there enough to worry about using all the water, but you would be suprised how far you can stretch 640 gallons of water. We don't drink the water but we shower and wash dishes in it. I am going to get it tested some day. But the reason I am telling you this is because you made me think about the power issue. Let me see if can get this right. Watts equals volts times amps. Our shallow well pump is 5.4 amps. 110 times 5.4 is somewhere around 600 watts (I don't have my calculator). I borrowed my friends 800 watt inverter and took it and my trolling motor battery to the cabin. I figured we could run the pump that way so we wouldn't need to go ouside and start the generator just to flush the toilet at night. Well, it wouldn't work so maybe I will try it with a 1000 watt inverter. If you have any ideas (low cost of course) I would sure consider them. I enjoyed your comment and I am glad to see you are interest in this sort of thing.

Submitted by CoyoteJoe (not verified) on
Pumps are difficult to figure because the initial draw when they first start up can be two or three times the continuous running draw, but that is probably not your problem. The 800 watt inverter may be OK but that small battery is not supplying 800 watts to the inverter, the inverter can not put out more than the input. But back to the TV program. I have lived out in a tent or tipi over several winters in Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico , a couple while working a trap line and a couple just loafing and escaping society. Had someone filmed my everyday activities I have no doubt there would have been some hours of interest to many people and some may have learned a few things they might not have known but by and large it would have been pretty boring just watching a guy go about his routine chores. Still, if they had filmed three months of day to day life I thing they could have easily found 18-20 hours that would have been of interest without resorting to deception and fakery. That's a full TV season of 45 minute episodes and that's just one guy in one place so there is certainly no need to fake it with three subjects living in such widely varied locals.

Oh, I completely agree; all <em>Alone in the Wilderness</em> filmed was the daily mundane chores of one man, and it was fascinating, just watching him eat pancakes ... I'm serious, too, not being flip ... of course, he was filming himself, and wasn't making a "reality show," such as it is today ... but all those little things that seem so boring in our daily lives might be fascinating to others ... seems like he even fashioned a spoon at some point ... I'm just sayin' ....

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
First you have to find out the amps the pump draws on start up which is generally much higher than the stated number. Joe is right. You also need to have sufficient battery storage to supply the motor the power to run continuously. Water pumps are power hogs. There are websites that will give you the calculations for sizing an inverter based on your needs and the battery capacity necessary. A simpler solution is to have a holding tank above your cabin, as long as you are not on the top of a hill so you can rely on gravity for pressure. It also has the added benefit of not having to filter the water if the aquifer is deep enough and free of sediment. It is basically and enclosed system. Taking water from your roof via gutters is a good solution but you will need a booster pump to provide the pressure you need. They make small booster pumps that are very compact and energy efficient but they can be rather pricey. The best solution in my opinion is a holding tank fed by a solar powered pump. They don't have the delivery rate of electrical pumps but they operate whenever the sun is shining constantly replenishing your holding tank. You can either put a float switch in the tank to turn the pump on and off or simply let it run with and overflow on your tank. A friend of mine does this and uses the overflow to fill his watering troughs for his livestock. There is an even cheaper way to fill your toilet. You can fill the holding tank by hand after every flush. Not elegant or efficient by definitely cost effective. Hope this helps.

Submitted by Whocares (not verified) on
Thanks guys....I am listening to your knowledge and advice. I never thought of the amps from the battery being to low. Now I understand you may not invert more watts than your battery puts out. I like the gravity idea. That much water should provide enough pressure to fill a toilet and the tanks are level with the floor of the bathroom. I think we could remove the toilet from the pump/pressure system manifolds and tap on to the main line going to the pump for the toilet. Good idea and I am sure it will work. All I need to do is convince my older John Wayne like brother to make the switch. Have a great day and thanks again.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Sir, I'd wager that your 5.4 amp pump draws 5.4 ramps while running. It probably takes almost twice that to get it started. You either need a much bigger inverter or a smaller pump (for filling the toilet or other brief and occasional demands). If I were you, I'd look into one of those pumps used in garden fish ponds or something like that - maybe one of those small drop-in submersibles would work too. They can be had with a 1/4 - 1/3 hp motor, while your shallow well pump is probably between 1hp and 1 1/2 hp. Good luck with everything, and though your post ended with a question, it was more informative than ten hours of Mountain Men.

Submitted by devawn (not verified) on
Well that just busted my bubble lol. They shouldn't call it reality Tv bunch of liars. Don't think I like him that much anymore :-(

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
I saw the diesel engine. Also noted the two of them were wearing ear muffs because of the noise. The votage meter displayed indicated that it was 24 VDC system. I am quite sure that if he actually owned an electric sawemill, it would require 3 phase power. Not to mention he had wood stacked up pass Giraffe's ass. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Jeff K. (not verified) on
Thank you for keeping it real!

Submitted by NC Lawyer (not verified) on
I finally saw the episode today. The question I have been waiting to ask was not answered by the show. Why was Euseless Wrongway going to court? He didn't have a summons. Does anyone running this show have the tiniest inkling of how the civil process works so as to make this even semi-plausible? It would take a child to think he could just ride up to the courthouse, hitch his horse to a parking meter and walk in to see a judge. What is the judge supposed to do? What motion is set on for hearing? What case is open? Is Euseless now a lawyer? Does he think the mystery judge in his mystery case can just rule on his mystery motion without the other side being represented? Even if it is a tax issue, the government gets a chance to be heard. But even discussing this as if Euseless is actually going into court is giving me a headache. But I wish he would march in there demanding justice and a hearing on a six year old judgment. He would be thrown under the jail for contempt. Seriously, this isn't even on par with a cartoon at this point.

Submitted by Brent (not verified) on
...but it always disappoints. Right before a commercial break they build things up into this life or death moment , and then when they come back from a commercial break we're like oh...cool...got through that one no problem. it'd wouldn't be that bad if it didn't happen over and over, every commercial, every end of every episode. - will Marty's plane crash? "We're not gonna make it!" - 150 lb. pack my ass...anyone who backpacks can tell from how he hoisted and walked with it that it's nowhere near that...and on and on and on - will Eustice be able to make it to the courthouse in time? he can't spend the money for the TEN MILE trip so he takes a day breaking a "new" trail to the main road, shoes a horse who's never ridden on a highway, heads out, holds up traffic, "barely" makes it through the horrific leaf fire next to the road...and on and on and on i GOOD CONCEPT. PISS POOR EXECUTION.

Submitted by anonamouse (not verified) on
I was sorry to see all the haters on this sight , yes the show is corny , and it seems Eustace sold out. But he is a true wilderness/mountain man not an actor or producer. My husband went to school at App St when Eustace was there and remember him living off the land in a tee pee in the woods, over 20 yr ago. As long as we can remember he has tried to find a way to share his love of nature and the simpler life, through learning camps ect. unfortunately this program seems contrived to what the producers wanted. I would much rather have seen a docudrama on his life it would be much more interesting. But then what do I know who would have thought Snookie would be a house hold name, apparently that is what the general viewers want. What ever the reason he owes money for his land, taxes or a law suit, I hope he is able to keep it, and hopefully get back to the life he has lived and loved for so long.

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
It's not about being a "hater", far from it. It's about being lied to and purposely mislead by the people involved with the show. All of them. The way I see it, there were more lies and half-truths than not. COME ON MARTY!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Eustace Conway is the real deal. Both of my boys attended a 2-week summer camp at Turtle Island and they are forever changed. I had the pleasure of spending about 3-4 hours with Eustace, as he gave some of us a tour of Turtle Island via horse and buggy. He lives simply, honestly, and with a HUGE heart. I am a big fan of Eustace and everyone at Turtle Island. The show does none of these men justice.

Submitted by coyotejoe (not verified) on
Two boys for two weeks plus a buggy ride probably cost you betwen four and five grand, right?

Submitted by Elmo Bannannabush (not verified) on
I assume you mean for each boy. Four grand if they rode in the buggy together, five grand is they rode separate. Wow!! That is 2-1/2 years of income for Useless!! HA-HA COME ON MARFTY!!!

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