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'Sons of Guns': Did Vince sabotage the Vegas build? (VIDEO)

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Tonight’s the big Sons of Guns trip to Vegas—does everything stay there? (Warning: Spoilers ahead!)

In a season finale called “Wedlock and Load,” Kris and Stephanie appear to take a step in a more serious direction when Stephanie gives Kris a family arm band of love. “I know to a lot of people it’s just a silly beaded band, but to me and my family, it’s a lot,” she tells him. But, as the episode title teases, will they take the plunge in Vegas, known for its chapels and vows of forever? Seems like a big leap, but not out of the question.

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On the work front, did the team achieve their weapons objective before heading to Vegas? Well, they definitely got the AR working in semi-mode, but full auto?

Looks like there may have been some sabotage going on.

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Kris, Stephanie and Will went ahead to Las Vegas, and Vince was to send the AR to them when he finished up his leg of the project and confirmed that he had it working properly. However, it appears Vince had other ideas.

“Having the weapon arrive, improper parts—to call that an embarrassment is beyond an understatement,” Will said.

At first, Will thinks that it was just his assessment of the problem that had been wrong. However, upon taking the AR apart ….

“That’s a car[bine] buffer,” Will said as he looked more closely at the weapon. “Vince knew damn well to use a hydraulic buffer. … Vince really screwed the pooch. He used a standard carbine buffer. That’s not gonna work with the piston system we built. … What the hell did he put that in there for? Vince knew damn well it uses a hydraulic buffer.”

Seems Vince had a plan in mind—and it wasn’t the pooch he intended to screw on this one.

Back in Louisiana, the sound of silence is ringing through Red Jacket.

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“Where’s everybody at?” Joe asks, walking into the shop and finding no one. “Did Vince bail on us?” he asks to no one but himself.

Joe immediately delivered the news to Will: “There’s no one at the shop, and Vince’s bench is cleared out.”

“What do you mean ‘cleaned up?’” Will asked, short on time and quickly becoming annoyed.

“Cleared out,” Joe clarifies. “His tool box is gone, all of his stuff’s gone, his tools on the wall are gone.”

So, did Vince, head gun smith and shop manager, sabotage one of the biggest projects Red Jacket has ever had, then hit the road?

Well, he left them high and dry, shipping a weapon that he knew was put together improperly, cleared out his property when no one was around, then refused to answer his phone during all of the ensuing drama. But, did he accomplish his apparent goal of sinking the Red Jacket Vegas project?

UPDATE: 'Sons of Guns': Did Joe betray Will's trust, or is 'creative license' at work?

Stay tuned.

Sons of Guns airs tonight at 9 p.m. (ET) on the Discovery Channel.

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#1 Vince

Wil treated Vince like shit, he deserves better and probably has a better job already. I think the show just lost a fan in me.

#2 tonites show

Chris is a moron, working his way up in the company through the oldest way known (the daughter). Why would Will initially put Chris in charge of a project SO important to the company, which he couldn't complete, duh, then reassigned it to vince (who knew how to complete it in the 1st case) treat him like CRAP, while Chris is soaking up the glory, spotlight, and perks in vegas. Either this is fake tv drama Crap or will is incredibley naive.

#3 Amen, If Will would have

Amen,
If Will would have given the job to the right man (Vince) in the first place. The weapon would have been in Vegas with Will when he flew out there. Instead he let Chris f#€k around until the very last second.
Vince felt disrespected and his heart wasn't there anymore. I don't agree with the way he left, but I understand.

#4 your wrong

How is someone going to get a chance to do anything if you keep putting the more experienced ahead of the rest. Kris should've had a chance before this yes but at least he save the project where as Vince has bee acting like a child for a while crying about who leads what and wasn't that he got the project he was to lead the project and Vince was supposed to help if it came to that watch the show closer and without blinders so leading the project means each member was to do a part of the project.

#5 VInce damaged the gun and the case

THe gun had damage to it and dirt on it that could only have happened if vince whipped it on the ground. it couldnt have happend to it while it was in the case (which was broken).
you all posting that he was treated unfairly obviously haven't worked much, and seen what an unfair workplace is. THis is how americans are today - they think unless their boss babies them and is nice to them they just stomp their feet and throw a tantrum. If vince is such a family man he'd do what he's told instead of crying like a baby so he can support his family.
really, how can you all justify him sabotaging the AR, and even damaging it? The guy has some serious mental instability.

#6 shipping

i guess you never had anything delivered by fed-x, u.p.s. or the u.s post office or you dont know of anyone who has had something shipped that upon arrival its damaged. thats why they offer insurance when you ship something.

#7 I friggin WORKED for UPS.

how could the dirt have gotten INSIDE the case and in the box? and how could the metal of the gun get scuffed. it's impossible

#8 Mr. U.P.S.

I cant speak for fed-x or the postal service but i can say this about U.P.S. I have lived for 25 yrs less than a block away from a very large U.P.S. distribution center in northeastern pennsylvania. My backyard deck just happens to face the loading side of the center and i have been fortunate not only to see but videotape alot of the goings on at the center.You are more than welcome to see any or all the tapes anytime you would like just respond to this and i will give you my name address and phone and if you would like to do the same ill send the tapes to you and the postage is on me. Just to mention a few things i have seen over the years, i watched trucks of all sizes pull away from the dock with cargo doors wide open and out came the cargo onto the ground, ive also seen workers hand loading smaller trucks and vans at the docks using hand fork trucks and dollys and all the sudden there goes part or sometimes all of the load off the dock about 6 to 8 ft down and make a big splash on the ground and it is scooped right back up and put on the trucks for delivery. Maybe you dont know this because you worked for the united planetary services which is a division of starfleet or judging by the vocabulary on your post maybe you were just a truck washer cuz it dosent sound like you are qualified to do much more than that.

#9 The show is a JOKE!!!!!

FOLKS!!!! Do your research!!!! Vince is just fine, has his own business. Will and producer were in PANIC. Vince had the license to keep RED JACKET open. No plans to see this soap opera, again!!! TOO MUCH like OCC.

#10 I'm with you. No plans to

I'm with you. No plans to watch again. Really can't stomach Kris kissing Will's ass anymore. The kid is a tool. But then we shouldn't put to much stock in these scripted reality shows.

#11 convicted criminal ford

im with all these other people. I cant stand the show anymore but most of all i hate that kiss ass kris ford. i just found out hes a convicted criminal.

#12 shipping

i guess you never had anything delivered by fed-x, u.p.s. or the u.s post office or you dont know of anyone who has had something shipped that upon arrival its damaged. thats why they offer insurance when you ship something.

#13 shipping

i guess you never had anything delivered by fed-x, u.p.s. or the u.s post office or you dont know of anyone who has had something shipped that upon arrival its damaged. thats why they offer insurance when you ship something.

#14 vince's defence

after rummaging thru the mess that Kris left, Vince got the gun working and handed it off to his co-worker to ship. Vince then left the building. Will has been an egotisical as_hole who should have given the project to the most qualified person if it was such a critical job.

#15 If you were the client...

If you were the client, would you want your AR built by Vince, a master armorer who has experience building ARs, or Chris, the guy who was an apprentice and clearly knows very little about them. This goes for virtually any product, but with guns, which these guys put their lives on, who would you rather rely on? By the way, amateurs build their own ARs all the time. Chris is supposed to be a professional.

#16 I agree 100% why in hell

I agree 100% why in hell would he have let that shmuch take charge on such important project. He did not deserve it and that was a huge kick in the nads to Vince. He was their head gunsmith. Why would will be so stupid to let the apprentice take charge on a game changing build. Then treat Vince like crap after he unfricked Chris's dumb ass mess!

#17 You are right!

Will should of had vince do that build, Chris doesn't know what he is doing. he's noting but a big kid.

#18 last nights show

aside from everyone being right, about vince being the best gun builder there, the other part is that, Will always preaches family. Vince has his own family with a kid on the way,he missed the ultrasound ,, vince sounds like a devoted father and husband and if Will doesnt like that screw Red Jacket. but its tv my bet Vince will be back

#19 Vince was wrong!

At the beginning of the project,Will made it clear that Kris was in charge of the project but that the other "team members", specifically Vince, were to help him.

It was pretty clear that Vince was lookikng for another job, but he did it SO unprofessionally that I think he's messed up his future job prospects. I am inclined to believe that the car buffer was an honest mistake on Vince's part. On the other hand, he quite clearly intended to screw over Will, the company, and the rest of the team by leaving without any notice, and then took the coward's way out in not answering the phone. Furthermore, Vince has made a big deal of his Christianity...and based upon the way I read my Bible, he certainly did NOT act in a Christian way. Not judging mind you...just reporting the facts the way I see them.

#20 There is proof in the show Vince sabotaged the build

In video you can see Vince testing the weapon in full auto before its sent out it would not function this way with the incorrect buffer so he or someone swithced the buffers before sending the weapon to vegas. I agree Will treated Vince like shit and his daughter is only pushing for Chris because shes f***ing him. Its another perfect example of producers making drama the show would be so much better if they concentrated on the building of weapons and not drama. Vince will be better off in his new venture Im sure.

#21 Who wroked so that they had

Who wroked so that they had the opprotunity to watch Kris assemble and disassbble the gun numerous times? Who was the person who shipped it?

#22 There is proof in the show Vince sabotaged the build

In video you can see Vince testing the weapon in full auto before its sent out it would not function this way with the incorrect buffer so he or someone swithced the buffers before sending the weapon to vegas. I agree Will treated Vince like shit and his daughter is only pushing for Chris because shes f***ing him. Its another perfect example of producers making drama the show would be so much better if they concentrated on the building of weapons and not drama. Vince will be better off in his new venture Im sure.

#23 Wrong...Vince DID NOT fire in

Wrong...Vince DID NOT fire in sull auto mode. I saw a rerun last night and it clear shows he fired the gun in single shot mode.

#24 An absurd statement!

How can you possibly know he didnt test it in full auto just because the show doesnt have him doing it. you know things occur in real life that arent always get to be on tv

#25 Amen Brother

Yeh, they can't show everything

#26 No, you can't show

No, you can't show everything... but...

If he had tested it in full auto-and it failed?

You can be damned sure the producers would have definitely used that video of him getting all pissed about it and having to deal with it getting even more pissed while he worked out the problem after having been there all night.

If he had tested it in full-auto, and it worked?

You can be damned sure the producers would have used the video tape also, because later on in the episode, the weapon NOT firing in full auto became a HUGE deal.

Either way, if there was video of it, it would have been used during the 'checklist' part of the testing. We know the crew was there, because we saw him testing it in semi-auto mode. How long would it have taken him to switch to full-auto and continue testing? A few seconds? The crew was there.

We didn't see him test in full-auto, because he did not test full-auto. Not because 'we can't see everything'. If the video existed? It would have been used. Later events would have made it a certainty.

-- Smoov

#27 and one more thought... Vince

and one more thought...

Vince knew it was a full-auto weapon, yet, he wouldn't test it in full auto?

How do you take a full-auto weapon to the range to test if it works, and not test it in full-auto?

What reason would you never bother to test a full-auto weapon in full-auto, other than only having 5 shells to test with? (and we all know they're well stocked for shells)

Only reason I can think of to not bother testing a full-auto weapon, in full-auto mode, when determining if a full-auto weapon is working properly or not. When you already know, full-auto mode isn't working.

-- Smoov

#28 Amen Brother

Yeh, they can't show everything

#29 Wrong...Vince DID NOT fire in

Wrong...Vince DID NOT fire in sull auto mode. I saw a rerun last night and it clear shows he fired the gun in single shot mode.

#30 You Are Wrong!!

IF Vince fired the gun in full auto mode, then you just proved he sabotaged the gun and swapped buffers. Thanks for making my point.