U.S. horse slaughtering okay'd by Obama, Congress

Horse slaughter houses will again be opening in the United States, but the outcry from activists may not come as loudly as one would expect.

Horse slaughtering is again on the table in the United States.

Funding for inspection of horse slaughter houses was ended in 2006, which basically shut them down. This was done with the idea that more horse rescues would follow. However, that is unfortunately not what happened.

Patty Livingston, a horse rescuer in Bethlehem, GA, and president of the Georgia Equine Rescue League, spoke with 11Alive News in Atlanta about the controversial move of putting horse slaughterhouses back in business in the United States, supported by Congress and President Obama. The bill was sent to the president this month; he signed it on Nov. 18, allowing the slaughterhouses to get back to business in the U.S.

But, Livingston indicated that, horrible as it seems, it is the best of the options out there right now. "In 2006 I actually voted to shut them down, not knowing what that was going to mean for our horses," she said. The collapse of the economy led to more horse abuse, Livingston indicated, and abandonment has increased—as much as 60 percent in Colorado, she said, leading to rescue groups becoming overwhelmed and unable to deal with the problem of abandoned and abused horses in the United States.

Slaughter houses in Canada and Mexico have continued to demand horse meat since the U.S. slaughter houses shut down five years ago. So, many old and abandoned horses have been taken across the borders for slaughter—under less humane conditions, Congressman Jack Kingston (R-Savannah) pointed out to 11Alive News.

"In those facilities, particularly in Mexico, the USDA has no jurisdiction and we don't know what kind of facilities they are, if the horses are treated humanely," Rep. Kingston said.

Rep. Kingston did vote to allow horse slaughter houses to reopen, as did various Congressmen from both sides of the political aisle, allowing the bill to be signed by President Obama.

Surprisingly, some horse rescuers, like Livingston, do support the move as the lesser of the evils.

"The cruelty that they endure now is ten times worse than they ever endured when we had slaughter houses in this country," Livingston explained to 11Alive News.

There are over 9 million horses in the United States today; just over one percent, approximately 125,000 are slaughtered each year.

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Comments

Submitted by Stephanie M Sellers (not verified) on
America's horses helped build this great Nation. Let's work together to save them from slaughter. This is the best plan: First, cull all breeding incentives. This is upmost. Second, create a foal impact fee for all major horse breeders. Third, remove horses from USDA. These steps will gradually omit over-population and thus halt horse slaughter while making horses more valuable and redeeming their status as America's National Treasure. BUT the Agriculture USDA committee has recently pushed a move to keep horses open for meat inspection. Of course, I do not believe this was done without knowledge of our Representatives, but held as a team move like in a Judge's chambers. Like the New York Times is quoted, 'Horse Slaughter will only die with money.' Let's give it to them. Culling breeding incentives (crazy expenses we hand over to over indulged breeders who utilize horse slaughter to rid of horses that won't be champions) and then apply a foal impact fee. This will stop over population. And it will create MONEY. MONEY will stop horse slaughter! Mail petition from Horses as National Treasure with Stephanie M Sellers.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
You will never stop back-yard breeders. Never. You might shut down the top breeding farms that breed good selection of horses, but never the person that has a horse with genetic problems to another genetic problem horse. What crap are you reading?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
You might want to reconsider your state about top breeding farms that breed good horse - where did HYPP come from? A top breed, if I am remembering correctly. And we breeder continue to breed the blood line - knowinig there are issues but the money is there so it will continue. I know of many "top breeders' who continue to breed horse that show a propensity for health issue, but again, the money is there. This is not to say that back-yard breeders aren't an issue. I guess I would rather buy that grade horse that might have a bit of a big head, or feet big enough to support there 1250 lb body that is going to give me 20 - 25 years of riding partnership that a highly bred picture perfect registered animal that is walking around on double OO feet that goes lame in 5 - 6 yrs

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Completely agree. The people who abuse and starve horses are the same ones who would be unaffected by your suggested sanctions imposed on known breeders. Slaughter-houses, however unpleasant, are the lesser of many evils in some situations. The other side of this coin is that reinstating slaughter will ALSO allow many local horse auctions to reopen - where many horses get a second chance. "Billy-bob" might get his starving horse out of the pasture and try to sell it at an auction, where there is a good possibility is could end up in a better home, not necessarily going for slaughter.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Horrible people do horrible things everyday so now we pass bills to say that it is ok?! what crap are you supporting? you people disgust me.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
If anyone has an answer spit it out ! People are dumping horses and all kinds of animals right & left. The rescues can only handle so many & finding the funds to feed them is a huge challenge. We would all like to keep our rose colored glasses on and say no more slaughter but somebody needs to come up with a REAL solution on what to do with hundreds of thousand pound animals abandoned on roads, sale barns, boarding facilities, etc etc. You want to be part of the solution ? Work on it & quit pointing fingers & name calling.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
ridden, shown, raced, raised, bred, trained, jockeyed, farriered, boarded, rescued, groomed, worked as a Equine tech, vet, nutrionist, farmed, instructed/coached, judged, AI'd, transported or even cleaned a stall. You don't have anything to say! The horses and the people that LOVE them need this more than anything. Have you ever seen a horse in pain, suffering, starving, sick, or worked with a horse that is so dangerous you fear for your safety, others safety? Well, then you don't "get it."

Submitted by Camelotfarm (not verified) on
Unfortunately, culling breeding incentives will never happen. It isn't the reputable breeders you have to worry about. Good horse still bring good $$. It's the 'backyard' breeder who impregnates anything with a uterus simply for the sake of doing so. It is virtually impossible to eliminate this, ignorance breeds ignorance. What DOES need to happen is policing of already existing laws for humane treatment. Laws ARE in effect that are supposed to keep horse slaughter as humane as possible, problem is, WHO is policing it??? Secondly, throw money at it; WHO is paying for this?? Certainly not MY tax dollars, NO thanks!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I 100% agree with you aint no way that my tax dollors are going to pay for the torture of innocent animals

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I 100% agree with you aint no way that my tax dollors are going to pay for the torture of innocent animals

Submitted by Drifter81 (not verified) on
If you think for one second that while horses where helping us build this country the cowboys and pioneers weren't eating thier horses out on cold prairie you are sadly mistaken. Horses were viewed as livestock than and should be now.

Submitted by Drifter81 (not verified) on
If you think that none of the pioneers ate thier horses out on the cold prairie trail across this great country you are sourly mistaken. Although horses were valued as mounts they were also valued as food. I find most people who are against the slaughter of livestock have never in thier life owned any livestock. They think hamburger just comes from the store.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Clearly it sounds like you are the pioneer and you need to go back to the prairie. Yes, horses were consumed by people WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE TO EAT, DUH!!! You are clearly living in the wrong century and should move to Canada or Mexico or somewhere people really give a crap about your 100 year old opinion..

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Really??? How is imposing a foal impact fee on the "major" horse breeders fair or realistic? You want to punish those who attempt to breed quality horses and sell them as performers? Exactly which large breder do you know of that uses slaughter to get rid of horses that won't be champions??? That's a bunch of crap! They might sell them for less money or sell them for pleasure riding instead of competetion. if they have a good quality horse, they are not going to sell it for $300 regardless. How is it fair to charge some breeders a foal impact fee and not others? The backyard breeders are most of the problem and you will never regulate them. There is no way to regulate what someone does in their own backyard. I know of people who have 20-30 horses that they can't afford to feed and care for properly. These horses are allowed to breed at random. This is very wrong! These horses will never have a decent life! So why do you want to try to punish those who breed responsibly? Wake up! Just because horse slaughter was not legal in the US did not mean that it stopped. It will NEVER stop. At least if it is done in the US, it can be regulated and humane. If you think that a trip to Mexico is a better option then you are nuts! Slaughter can be humane when it is regulated in the US. Unless you are a vegan then you can't oppose the use of animals for food. They are stock animals like cows and pigs. Do you drink milk or eat cheese or hamburgers? I want these animals to be treated as humanely as possible, but I still like cheeseburgers. If there is no animal slaughter, then what will happen to all the unwanted cows? Cows chickens, and pigs would be extinct (except for in a zoo) if we didn't eat them!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I don't think culling incentives is going to, even over a long period of time, make there be no need for horse slaughter. Most the horses in breeding incentive programs would never end up in slaughter houses in the first place. It's all the un-registered and crippled horses that the slaughter houses are intended for. Tell me, are you willing do to your part to 'save horses from slaughter' and dedicate a huge portion of your paycheck every year to feed and maintain a crippled horse? Didn't think so. A good solution might be to require standards to be met by parents of horses in order for their foals to be registered. It would cut down on breeding quite a bit of the 'not so nice' registered horses.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Dear Miss. Sellers, My name is Sunnie Wynn I am 16 years old from South Georgia. My family raises and trains horses for a living & horses have always been my passion! We show all of our horses and are ranked top in the nation and world. If you truly care and love horses then you should be for slaughter. I know it is a terrible thing to think about, but its done humanily do your research. Would you rather we have millions of horses starving and being turned out in the wild because people can't afford them, or would you rather they be put down humanily and used for something. America isnt in demand for horse meat the middle eastern countries are. Money will not stop slaughter because no one has that kind of money. Slaughter is for the best believe it or not. People think they are trying to save them by buying horses untilo they have no money to feed them & then the horses die and suffer a terrible death. Think about this, would you rather horses die an inhumane death (which is what will happen if you tyr and stop it, look around its already happened) or would rather them be served justice and humanily be put down? -Sunnie Wynn

Submitted by NC (not verified) on
I'm delighted the slaughter houses are being reopened. As a horses breeder and seller, the horse market has become saturated with trash horses. Horses the have been inbred that they become crazy and will never be ridden. Think about it...a stallion in a pasture with several mares, breeding the mares, then breeding the offspring, then breeding the offspring's offfspring. A 10 year old well trained horse suitable for a child to ride selling for less than a $1,000.00! How do you thing that horses got trained to be that gentle - a lot of work and ten years of feeding twice a day. We have 9 horses and haven't sold one in five years, since the slaughter houses closed and the price for horses went into the manure pile. Obama did something right.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Not only that, but some "breeders" and "sellers" have taken advantage of the non-market to sell their own foals and other horses they can pick up off Craigslist for free or $100, and haul a stock-trailer load to Mexico (or Canada, whichever is closer), once a month or more. I know of at least 2 local breeders who do this on a regular basis to get a per-pound profit because they can't sell their crappy-bred horses any other way. These are breeders who were breeding crappy horses BEFORE the market crashed, and never stopped. 60-80 poorly-conformed, bad tempered babies a year that they couldn't sell then...surely can't sell now...So Mexico is their answer. At least slaughterhouses INSIDE the US will create US jobs, will have USDA standards for handling, and will be a closer destination for those unwanted horses that would otherwise endure a 26 hour final ride. Not to mention, put a bottom back in the market -- there used to be signs at the auctions as 'warnings' to sellers, for example $800 was meat price - if you sold your horse for that price or less, you knew he was probably going to the slaughterhouse. That gave every marketable, sound, well-trained horse an immediate perceived value above that $800 mark - both inside and outside the auction house.

Submitted by WASinthe horse ... (not verified) on
AMEN!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
excuse me?! crappy horses? who are you to say that a horse is, "crappy?!" beauty is subjective. you are an asshole.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
i am 13 and trying to get my entire middle school to sign a petition that if i am lucky enough i can actually send to the pres. or congress i am not going to sit and complain, i want to take action. i have been a horse lover all my life and if yall want to take care of the "bad" horses then humanely uthanize them. U r trying to tell me that cutting off their heads is better? try telling ur kid (if you heartless people even have them) that those beautifull amazing creature you see on tv or on the internet are about to be slaughtered.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
i am 13 and trying to get my entire middle school to sign a petition that if i am lucky enough i can actually send to the pres. or congress i am not going to sit and complain, i want to take action. i have been a horse lover all my life and if yall want to take care of the "bad" horses then humanely uthanize them. U r trying to tell me that cutting off their heads is better? try telling ur kid (if you heartless people even have them) that those beautifull amazing creature you see on tv or on the internet are about to be slaughtered.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
i am 13 and trying to get my entire middle school to sign a petition that if i am lucky enough i can actually send to the pres. or congress i am not going to sit and complain, i want to take action. i have been a horse lover all my life and if yall want to take care of the "bad" horses then humanely uthanize them. U r trying to tell me that cutting off their heads is better? try telling ur kid (if you heartless people even have them) that those beautifull amazing creature you see on tv or on the internet are about to be slaughtered.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
A few years back, my family sold a well-bred paint mare and her foal to a man for $600. This mare later became a competitor in the national mounted shooting competition. Imagine what this mare would have brought our family if horse slaughter was still available and the market hadn't taken a dump. I hope this will bring horse sales back up to the price they should be! Thanks Obama, bout time you did something good for our nation!

Submitted by Stephanie M Sellers (not verified) on
Go to Horses as National Treasure with Stephanie M Sellers. Wake up, America! We are paying the Kings of Horse Breeding millions of dollars each year in write offs on dead horses and enabling them with rich breeding incentives to create more horses. From these horses, less than 93% are champions. That is how the line to slaughter develops. Our own government grows it! Stop the madness. Stop the cycle and force breeders to be responsible! Our ailing government debt should not be paying over-indulged arrogant indolent breeders millions of dollars. Read the facts at Horses as National Treasure. Mail the petitions today and stop the Sport of Kings!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
YOU ARE NOT ANIMAL LOVERS AND SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY ANIMALS

Submitted by Camelotfarm (not verified) on
Un-bury your head from the sand. WHO do you think should PAY to care for unwanted horses? How bout this, I load up about 20 head and drop them off at your place, all FREE. Just need the address......Oh, yeah, you can't afford them.....then WHO should?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I feed about 30 animals right now,7 of which are not mine.They come to my house because they know they will get fed.The people who took the responsibilty to have the animals in the first place should take of them until they die of old age.If you're ignorant enough to let an animal starve then YOU should be the one to be taken to slaughter.

Submitted by MJmyAngel (not verified) on
ok so there are a lot of horses out their that need homes i know that! but people don't you get it? IF YOU CANT KEEP THE FREAKING HORSE THEN WHY DID YOU BUY IT? if you cannot take care of the horse then why did you buy it in the first place? if you cannot take care of the horse anymore then sell it and make some moo la off it! but do not send i to horse slaughter! OK how would you like it id you had a loving caring family and then all of a sudden, they sent you to a place that kills the horse right in front of the next one so the next horse knows whats coming! did you know that they kill mothers fathers mares stallions foals,babies geldings! they do not care they turn the dead horses into dog food ! OBAMA JUST BECAUSE YOU DO OT LIKE HORSES DOES NOT MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T!

Submitted by MJmyAngel (not verified) on
ok so there are a lot of horses out their that need homes i know that! but people don't you get it? IF YOU CANT KEEP THE FREAKING HORSE THEN WHY DID YOU BUY IT? if you cannot take care of the horse then why did you buy it in the first place? if you cannot take care of the horse anymore then sell it and make some moo la off it! but do not send i to horse slaughter! OK how would you like it id you had a loving caring family and then all of a sudden, they sent you to a place that kills the horse right in front of the next one so the next horse knows whats coming! did you know that they kill mothers fathers mares stallions foals,babies geldings! they do not care they turn the dead horses into dog food ! OBAMA JUST BECAUSE YOU DO OT LIKE HORSES DOES NOT MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T!

Submitted by MJmyAngel (not verified) on
ok so there are a lot of horses out their that need homes i know that! but people don't you get it? IF YOU CANT KEEP THE FREAKING HORSE THEN WHY DID YOU BUY IT? if you cannot take care of the horse then why did you buy it in the first place? if you cannot take care of the horse anymore then sell it and make some moo la off it! but do not send i to horse slaughter! OK how would you like it id you had a loving caring family and then all of a sudden, they sent you to a place that kills the horse right in front of the next one so the next horse knows whats coming! did you know that they kill mothers fathers mares stallions foals,babies geldings! they do not care they turn the dead horses into dog food ! OBAMA JUST BECAUSE YOU DO OT LIKE HORSES DOES NOT MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
IF YOU CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEM DOOOOOOONNNNN'TTTT GEEETTTT THHHEEEMMM!!! Have you no common sense. In this century, horses are not considered as "Livestock". They are to help us with our daily work and for stress relief. If that's all the feelings that you have for them then maybe you should buy cattle instead.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
shut up! i would take all those horses first of all ..... its way better than droppin them off at a slaughter house.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Well guess what!!!! Who pays for the operation of the slaughter house?? YOUR TAX DOLLARS!!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I love animals and own three horses. Good horses, not the ones produced by a back-yard breeded who does not care for his/her animals, and over produces poor animals. just look on Craigs list and see hundreds posted weekly that are old, lame, or young and un-touched. The oens nobody wants are now crammed in a truck and hauled to mexico or Canada. Not THAT is inhumane. If slaoghter is done here we can make sure they don't suffer and are put down in a humane way. If you love animals so much why not take in 50 or 60?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Are you nuts???? what is humane about the way animals are slaughtered in those horrible places!!! Humane???? are you kidding me???? Have you not viewed the video's that are available of those killing places??? STOP WITH THE HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE THAT YOU KNOW BEST BECAUSE YOUR HEAD IS IN THE SAND!!! i DARE you to go to one of those hell holes and stand and watch for a day. Euthanize the horses if you must but don't you dare try to tell me its more humane to send them to slaughter...you are wrong wrong wrong

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Why don't you pull your lip over your head and SWALLOW!! Idiots with bleeding hearts shouldn't have animals!! How about we bring all the unwanted horses to you and you can pay for them!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Maybe the unwanted horses sholdn't have been created in the first place. The breeders are to blame. If you can't afford them and they aren't selling, then don't breed them in the first place. The legalization of horse slaughter in the US is a direct result of over breeding and lack of sales. It's no different than a puppy mill except a large majority of Americans can probably afford to adopt and care for a puppy while only a handful can adopt and care for a horse. Either scenario stil leads to thousands of unwanted animals which we all could have prevented in the first place.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
The same goes for people.The world is over populated with people because of young girls laying on their backs with their legs spread open just so they can get a check every month.This also needs to be prevented.I say spay and neuter all the animals and people.The world is over populated with people so are you gonna start slaughtering the unwanted ones?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
If yall are going to sit here and say lets kill all of these unwanted horses the ones that are mean nasty and just ugly than i say we do the same with people there are alot of mean nasty and ugly people out there....... time to open up a human slaughter house

Submitted by NC (not verified) on
You are asking why the human slaughter houses are not open because people want to kill unwanted...nasty...ugly...horses. Read post #30 "Human Slaughter Houses". People are already being killed because they are ...unwanted... NC (anyone want to buy a horse, we've got 4 for sale)

Submitted by Stephanie M Sellers (not verified) on
Breeders must be held responsible. Go to Horses as National Treasure with Stephanie M Sellers. Website has plenty of information, educational links and the plan to change horse history! Mail petitions today. (links to representative's addresses on website) Petition to Mail Members of Congress, Copy and Mail Today Open Letter concerning passing American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act HR 2966, and to create Bill to cull all breeding incentives and to create a foal impact fee, and to remove horses from USDA. Dear Honorable _____________________________________________, It is a disgrace that in 2007, America closed the last horse slaughterhouse, yet we ship over 100,000 to other countries for horrific deaths and have now re-opened the door in America for horse slaughter. Support HR 2966, the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. Remove horses from USDA list. Cull all breeding incentives and create a foal impact fee. These steps will stop horse over population. Major horse breeders ‘play the sports of Kings’ and send more horses to slaughter than any other group. The Kings of horse breeding make fortunes while sending low performance, injured and confirmation defective horses for horrific deaths in slaughterhouses, then write off their loses. The Kings are financially able to buy more insurance. Do not enable the elite with incentives and write-offs. Make all horse breeders responsible for the horses they create. (1) Remove horses from USDA list, thus omitting tax write-offs on dead horses. (2) Cull all breeding incentives. (3) Create a foal impact fee. These steps are logical. Without USDA horse owners will lose agricultural status and taxes will increase thus creating more funds and omitting horse over population. Problem solved. Phenylbutazone, routinely used in horses, is banned for use in all animals intended for human consumption because it causes serious and lethal idiosyncratic adverse effects in humans, such as cancer and Alzheimer’s. In this lies the merit for a serious lawsuit against our government. Visit the kill floor of one of the horse slaughter plants in Mexico. If you cannot support the above bills afterwards, and take steps to make horse breeders responsible, please, send me a letter explaining ‘your’ logic. Reconsider your position as a supporter of the King’s men. Most Sincerely, ________________________________________________________________signature and date _______________________________________printed name_________________________phone ____________________________________________________________________________address email_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Why not a bullet in the brain then...whats wrong with that?? Not herding them to their death...slitting their throat, hang them up to bleed out....yeah thats the ticket...I'm not a bleeding heart "idiot" for your information but a member of the NRA, I'm a 60 yr old woman who has been on many hunting trips with my husband...I eat venison and can shoot my Ruger with pretty good accuracy. I sat on top of a bag of moose meat in a plane in Newfoundland on a hunting trip with my husband at age 50. A bullet in the brain is a "humane" way of killing...not your self righteous ranting ...the OWNERS should be responsible

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Apperantly you aren't!! wake up get the facts. This is for the best you don't have to like it

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Amen!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
You ARE obviously NOT an animal lover.

Submitted by Drifter81 (not verified) on
Amen

Submitted by Pink (not verified) on
NC....You state that the market has become saturated with "trash" horses? Well guess what!?....YOU, ME...ANYONE reading this is a "trash" human, if our breeding background defines us, or categorizes us as either "trash" or "stallion". Perhaps they should start slaughtering all the humans that are not from a perfect and stellar lineage, starting with ME! But wait...if they did that, there would be zero humans left! Just because this doesn't work out for you and your business does not mean the horses should suffer by a horrible, inhumane, and unjust death (and don't try to argue that it will be humane; we ALL know better!)! If I'm going to starve to death, let me starve. If there are too many people with my same, imperfect DNA, so be it; don't throw me in the back of a semi with a bunch of other starving people (genocide?!) and haul me off to be slaughtered so that my body can be used and consumed by others. That is not how GOD planned for life to end. Who are you to put a death sentence on any being???? For you it's the bottom line....$$$$$$! How lovely that you are "delighted" about this bill being passed. I am disgusted by it...and by your lack of compassion.

Submitted by Camelotfarm (not verified) on
PINK: YOU have a choice to starve or not, horses do not. And have you physcially ever BEEN to a slaughter house and seen with your own eyes (not that propoganda crap PETA splatters all over youtube) a horse slaughtered? And if this is your issue, then lobby for proper policing of existing laws pertaining to humane transport and slaughter of horses. You put humans in the same category as animals. BIG mistake. The day my family goes hungry because I am paying to feed horses (who are a LUXURY) NOT a necessity, is the day I need locked up. Since you brought God into the equation, keep in mind, the bible tells us that man was put on earth OVER all animals, NOT equal to them. If you must use religion to make a point, atleast be accurate.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Having a family is a privilege as well... You don't have to have children to feed... We need to stop putting a bandaid on our problems... Slaughter is a quick fix. Dig deeper and find the underlying issues and come up with a real solution.

Submitted by Pink (not verified) on
Why don't you just cut off the head because their is a cut in the cheek??? Quick Fix Indeed!

Submitted by Stephanie M Sellers (not verified) on
Mail this petition from Horses as National Treasure, with Stephanie M Sellers, to your representatives. Petition to Mail Members of Congress, Copy and Mail Today Open Letter concerning passing American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act HR 2966, and to create Bill to cull all breeding incentives and to create a foal impact fee, and to remove horses from USDA. Dear Honorable _____________________________________________, It is a disgrace that in 2007, America closed the last horse slaughterhouse, yet we ship over 100,000 to other countries for horrific deaths and have now re-opened the door in America for horse slaughter. Support HR 2966, the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. Remove horses from USDA list. Cull all breeding incentives and create a foal impact fee. These steps will stop horse over population. Major horse breeders ‘play the sports of Kings’ and send more horses to slaughter than any other group. The Kings of horse breeding make fortunes while sending low performance, injured and confirmation defective horses for horrific deaths in slaughterhouses, then write off their loses. The Kings are financially able to buy more insurance. Do not enable the elite with incentives and write-offs. Make all horse breeders responsible for the horses they create. (1) Remove horses from USDA list, thus omitting tax write-offs on dead horses. (2) Cull all breeding incentives. (3) Create a foal impact fee. These steps are logical. Without USDA horse owners will lose agricultural status and taxes will increase thus creating more funds and omitting horse over population. Problem solved. Phenylbutazone, routinely used in horses, is banned for use in all animals intended for human consumption because it causes serious and lethal idiosyncratic adverse effects in humans, such as cancer and Alzheimer’s. In this lies the merit for a serious lawsuit against our government. Visit the kill floor of one of the horse slaughter plants in Mexico. If you cannot support the above bills afterwards, and take steps to make horse breeders responsible, please, send me a letter explaining ‘your’ logic. Reconsider your position as a supporter of the King’s men. Most Sincerely,

Submitted by Pink (not verified) on
Camelot...... I said IF ...IF I was starving. Not every human has the choice to starve or not to starve. How naive of you to say that!? Have I been to a slaughter house???? Let's just define the word Slaughter...slaugh·ter  noun 1. the killing or butchering of cattle, sheep, etc., especially for food. 2. the brutal or violent killing of a person. 3. the killing of great numbers of people or animals indiscriminately; carnage: the slaughter of war. And I need to actually WITNESS this to know what it defines???? My issue isn't about HUMANE slaughtering. Look up the word HUMANE. No....allow me! Hu·mane   [hyoo-meyn or, often, yoo-] adjective 1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, especially for the suffering or distressed: humane treatment of horses. How do you suggest that one HUMANELY Slaughter a being of ANY kind? Why would I lobby for slaughtering of any sort???? I am AGAINST slaughtering and would never lobby FOR it. Nobody said that YOU or your family should go hungry because you are feeding a horse. Where did THAT come from????? I would NEVER let my children starve to allow a horse to live. God granted me the authority over the animals. Let the horse starve, if it comes down to it. I'm not stupid! But do you seriously think a horse would CHOOSE to be slaughtered (go back and look at the definition of slaughter if you need to) and eaten, over just lying down and dying under God's blue skies, and letting it's body go back into the earth???? And I did not put humans in the same category as animals! GOD did. Read a bible! "Rule over" does not mean cause suffering and slaughter for your own selfish desires. God rules over us; do you see Him slaughtering us??????? Where in Genesis (since you are quoting the bible!!!!) does it say -Hear Ye Hear Ye Humans......slaughter thine animals for your own selfish desires????? Find that verse and I'll bow down to you. What God said was, "I have provided you with every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. " Oops.....maybe God made a mistake and meant to say something else, but got tongue tied perhaps??? I don't see the word animal/cow/pig/chicken/turkey/HORSE in that verse. I see only SEED-BEARING PLANT and EVERY TREE THAT HAS FRUIT WITH SEED IN IT! Are you still confused? It's very clear (unless of course you would like to rewrite the bible)....... And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. 28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” 29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Doesn't work, Pink ... Leviticus is where you will find God's food laws for human consumption ... and, yes, the animals we not only *can* but *should* eat are listed quite plainly and, yes, they remain valid to this very day ... no, pigs and horses are not in that list of animals for human consumption ... but, yes, cows, chickens, turkeys and other animals are ... God doesn't get "tongue-tied," but He does often get misquoted and have His words twisted by those who either do not rightly divide the Word and understand what they are saying, or who intentionally use Scripture to mislead ... I'm not sure where you fall, but your defense of humans not eating animals is not supported by Scripture, regardless ... Leviticus 11 ... check it out ... if you are truly interested in what God had to say about what is clean and unclean, i.e. healthy and unhealthy, for these flesh bodies we have, you will find it enlightening ... :)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Leviticus 11 Of all land animals these are the ones you may eat: any animal that has hooves you may eat,PROVIDED it is cloven footed and CHEWS the CUD.But you shall NOT eat of the following that only chew the cud or only have HOOVES.and the pig,which does indeed have hooves and is cloven footed but does NOT chew the cud and is therefore UNCLEAN for you.Their flesh you SHALL NOT eat.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
And, as I believe I said, horses and pigs are not in the list of things that one may eat ... i.e. they are unclean ... if I did not make this clear, thank you for doing so ... :)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
who are you to define GOD and RELIGION. and you're right, your family probably won't go hungry to pay for starving horses...you just don't sound to me like that kind of person. what's it to matter anyway, your taxes are actually paying for the operation of slaughter houses.

Submitted by NC (not verified) on
Pink, two points in response to your post . 3,700/day or 1.37 million babies were slaughtered last year in the United States. Some of these babies killed were because of genetic defects, some were unwanted, some were the wrong sex...all were aborted. Their lifeless bodies thrown in the dumpster behind the "human slaughter houses". People are not horses and cannot be categorized as such. I have met some people that look like a horse, and I have met some that act like an ass. I have a good friend that rides a mule and neither of them look like the other.

Submitted by Pink (not verified) on
NC...You want to talk abortion? Let's talk!!!!! But go to the correct forum. Don't cloud this mission with something that has NOTHING to do with these innocent horses. Nice deflection though. Way to try and twist my words. No go! You can't just DISMISS an animal because it cuts into your profits!!! How pathetic!!!! I have never owned a horse, but I am a mother of three, so if you want to talk abortion and children....let's talk!!!! Don't make it sound like some were killed because they were genetic defects. They were ALL killed because they were unwanted......period. Because people like YOU said "let's just take the perfect ones and KILL the rest". Either way...this is TOTALLY the wrong forum to discuss abortion.....and you are barking up the wrong tree. Humans are first and foremost; don't make it sound as if I said animals are equal to humans. Again...nice twist on my words, but a pathetic attempt to prove your point. I didn't say people are horses. Don't put words in my mouth. Just because a being is not a human does NOT give you the right to slaughter it and treat it with total disregard. SHAME on you. A horse, whether it have a beautiful coat and strong bloodline, or spotted, with a "trash" bloodline, as you so referred, is God's amazing creature....period. Would you slaughter your dog just because he urinates when he gets excited??? You people who are FOR this bill obviously have MONEY invested in breeding and are only looking out for you best FINANCIAL interest. What else could make you be so cruel and disgusting????

Submitted by Renee (not verified) on
Tell it !! I agree with you 100 % !!

Submitted by Globemstr3 (not verified) on
This is absolutely disgusting. How are government and elected leaders can support something like this is "Third Worldish" What are we turning into as a country.

Submitted by NC (not verified) on
Pink...you are correct, I have money invested in breeding. I have a stallion that is the son of Alen's Avenger. He has never been ridden and serves one purpose on our farm. We have two mares that we breed (when we breed) both from champion bloodlines (Spotted Alen, and Spotted Alen Again). In addition, we have two mares that we ride (World Grand Champions) a gelding, two mares, and a filly that will be sold. We love our baby horses are looking forward to letting the stallion do what he does best and the brood mares do what they do best. There will be no more babies until the herd of nine becomes six or seven. My "pleasure" in the slaughter houses reopening does have a financial backing. It also has a humanitarian backing. I've seen too many horses on shows such as Animal Cops - Houston that are crippled, malnourished and suffering. Raising horses. selling horses, and giving riding lessons helps offset the feed bill and the taxes required for us to keep out little piece of heaven here in Pilot Mountain, N.C. To call me "cruel and disgusting" is unfounded. I'll be happy to continue this conversation, but the name calling will have to cease.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Ok...soooooooo killing in that manner is ok...and you have watched tv?? Have you been to the humanitarian slaughter houses??? I was in Nebraska, driving and suddenly the stench of something ungodly permeated the air. The closer I got to the source, oh it was horrible. Guess what it was...a slaughter house for cattle...out away from all public view..hundreds of cattle knee deep in mud...waiting...it was awful so save me from your "humanitarian" retorect...you are in la la land and you should know better

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Ok...soooooooo killing in that manner is ok...and you have watched tv?? Have you been to the humanitarian slaughter houses??? I was in Nebraska, driving and suddenly the stench of something ungodly permeated the air. The closer I got to the source, oh it was horrible. Guess what it was...a slaughter house for cattle...out away from all public view..hundreds of cattle knee deep in mud...waiting...it was awful so save me from your "humanitarian" retorect...you are in la la land and you should know better

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Ok...soooooooo killing in that manner is ok...and you have watched tv?? Have you been to the humanitarian slaughter houses??? I was in Nebraska, driving and suddenly the stench of something ungodly permeated the air. The closer I got to the source, oh it was horrible. Guess what it was...a slaughter house for cattle...out away from all public view..hundreds of cattle knee deep in mud...waiting...it was awful so save me from your "humanitarian" retorect...you are in la la land and you should know better

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