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Watch the attached video of Genepax and you can see that this car is indeed powered by water. This really sounds too good to be true. All kinds of water, even tea works.
This eco-friendly car is unveiled in Osaca and may be the long wanted solution to rising gas prices. The energy-generating tank takes hydrogen from the water and sends electrodes to power the engine.
Genepax representative says the main feature of the car is that it will run as long as you have a bottle of water. No external input is needed. The car runs about 50 miles per hour (80 km per hour) and would be great in a city setting.
However, this is just the beginning. I would say the large car companies need to watch this trend and use their market share to become the leaders in this new industry of powering cars with simple water. This is eco-friendly. This is health and this is huge economic benefit.
Earlier there have been many reports about Aptera
that will get up to 300 miles per gallon and is expected to have the first mass production for California residents in September with about $22,000 dollar price tag. This is very nice, but powering Genepax cars with simple water, is truly amazing.
Genepax Co., LTD produces electricity and heat from water. No fossil fuels is used in the process. CO2 Zero Emission. The company aims to save the earth from Global Warming.
Posted June 16th, 2008 by Armen Hareyan
A car that runs on water? Will you guys get real. This story was run in the 1970s. It was wrong then. It is wrong now. Did you do your thermodynamic research? You can't split water into H and O then recombine them, and miraculously extract energy! It doesn't work. "Charlatans" comes to mind.
Oh Comon, yo can't split water Hydrogen and O2 form?
All you have are theories
Wake up dude?
Haven't you heared of an electrolyzer?... I do make this, you dont and probably you can't, because you dont know anything. because before you start, your brain is already clouded with negative throughts.
and a Hydrogen Fuel Cell ?
To break up water into its constituent elements, you have to put ENERGY into it, i.e. ELECTRICITY.
When you burn the produced hydrogen, you only get out the amount of energy that you originally put in, probably less.
Fuel cells work because someone further up the line already broke up the water and extracted the hydrogen. When you buy one, you're paying for the energy that went into making it (which probably came from the burning of fossil fuels). You're not getting free energy, and you're just paying someone else to pollute the environment for you.
Electrolysis is real. It's an electrochemical reaction. It's very basic chemistry that was discovered in the 1800s. Fuel cells date back to the 1800s as well. Electrolysis requires more energy to split Hydrogen and Oxygen from water than you will get back from a hydrogen fuel cell, or by burning hydrogen. The advantage of fuel cells over pure battery electric cars is that you can refuel a hydrogen fueled car faster than you can charge a battery. You can also store more energy as hydrogen at a lower weight than you can in batteries. Genepax claims to have invented a nameless chemical reaction that splits H2O without electrical input. I can't think of any basic chemical principles that haven't already been discovered. I simply don't see this happening without electrical input. They might actually have a bunch of hydride crystals in that box. They say that their process removes Hydrogen from water in the same way that Hydrogen can be removed from hydrides. I really don't see how. If anyone can explain this, then please do so. I really want this to be real. I'll buy a water powered car tomorrow.
Who are you and what are your credentials to question a car that runs on water. True in 70s there was a similar instance. Then gas prices affected only a fraction of people, now entire economies. I encourage this company and hope they will improve. We are already flying to Mars, so a Water Powered Car should not be a problem.
Unless some other sort of energy (gasoline, diesel, electricity) is fed into the car, the only way I know of that this could work is if they have actually solved cold fusion: in that case, you could extract hydrogen from the water with hydrolysis and then fuse the H molecules for a net energy gain. However, if that happened, it would be on the front page of every news source everywhere, and the idea of running cars from it would be an afterthought. Also, the car would be able to go a lot faster than 50 mph; it could probably fly to mars if you wanted it to. Color me skeptical.
I am sort of intrigued that Reuters is running the story, however.
All of you people who are writing negative articles must be on the OPEC payroll.
Get Real... If Hari-Kari is still practiced, there is going to be alot of dead people who work for Genepax. ps; there is world coverage of this news... remember stupid, it's only been 3 days since the first anouncement.
I think the question here is not whether we can physically run the car on water or not. The question is, will the governments allow such an invention (if true) to take place. Governments make billions of dollars on Taxes on fuel for all kinds of vehicles. It seems impossible that they would allow humanity's great dependency on petrolium (specifically fuel) to disappear.
Another side is, they will make us pay for water as much as we pay for fuel. in that case, we have not solved any issues
Remember, technology in this work is nothing but a tool to use for reasoning.
A later article reveals that the Genepax car uses active metal hydrides (sodium, potassium, lithium , etc) as fuel. The water is added and the hydrides release hydrogen. Once the metal is all used up, you get no more hydrogen. Now realize such active metals are created by the use of large amounts of fossil fuel or electricity.
The overall carbon footprint of such a car is worse than a gasoline burning car.
Mr. Wizard, can you please refer us to the later article that dicuss the other active metals used. Is Genepax a public company? I would imagine there would be a lot of speculation right now.
Here's an article that talks briefly about the membrane electrode assembly that the car uses: http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/online/news/articles/2008-06/Genepax-unveils-water-energy-fuel-cell
and here is an article that is a bit more enlightening about the process: http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120&a=7157
Basically, the energy that powers the car comes not from water but from the metal hydrides used in the cell that comes with the car. In essence, the car runs on a battery that is active once you pour water into it. While the consumer isn't personally using fossil fuels for transport, the energy that goes into making these "batteries" has to come from somewhere up the chain, i.e. fossil fuel burning factories.
Rain water is free.
Use it for the car!
Where can I buy one of these cars?
Einstein said energy is neither created nor lost - so how much energy does it require inside that BOX to breakdown water into hydrogen and oxygen? And what does that energy cost? And how long does the energey source creating the H2 and O2 last? That;s the question
The rich oil companies have ripped off consumers around the globe. Its time for them to go bankrupt. They stuff their pockets with million dollar bonuses that came from hard working class people. If the water power car succeeds in production, it will be the most wonderful thing that ever happened on this planet.
Cheap engery is held hostage by our own congress. We have larger oil reserves that OPEC and no leadership out of our goverment to develop on a large scale the means to reclaim the oil. We also have a goverment that has no insentive to carry this county into a future of alternate engery. Our goverment has allowed the oil industry to rape the american citizen. They put on dog and pony shows to provide the appearence of careing while taking huge sums of money form both the oil and automotive industries. I sincerly hope that the american public will warn up to the total electric cars that will be coming to America next year. Several manufactures from Europe and Asia are bring total electric cars to America in 2009, while the american car manufactures are still pushing hybrid cars to continue our dependence on the oil industry, the rest of the world is looking for a way to get free of oil dependence. The total electric cars coming next year have ranges of up to 140 miles per charge, the cost of charging one of these cars equates to a cost of approx. .70 to 90 cents per gallon gas. You could also create your own solar panel gas station if the electric companies decide to take the route of the oil industry.
When O and H combine, energy is released, and H2O is created.
When H2O is split to H and O, energy is absorbed. This energy MUST be ADDED! No if's or but's about that! NOTHING can run on water, it is just that simple. Ask anyone with even a cursory knowledge on the subject.
Anyone who belives a car can run on water is either a lawyer or a stock-broker, or any other person with ZERO knowledge of natuarl science.
Wow,
We get an invention that:
- Solves one of the biggest issue of Humanity
- Goes a long way to make the richest guys in the world bankrupt
- go against basic laws of energy conservation (only have a MSc in Physics applied to engineering as credentials, not a team of PhDs as these guys have though)
- Has a strong potential to shaken the world economy
- Has been discovered by a company with ridiculously low funds (compared to yoru standard NASA, Israel governments, European-wide funded projects, etc..)
- comes with no pre-announcement from the teams of PhDs which discovered how to resolve the Humanity problem of the milleniums
- the potential for the next few hundreds' years worth of Nobel prices
And the BS indicator doesn't turn red..
I like that spirit. :)
P.
If there is such a car, it does not even consume water --- just re-use the water vapor that the car generates.
Then, the story is funny now: a car can run forever without consuming any thing!
You people should be ashamed. You talk about how governments are 'raping' average citizens, then you bash anyone who dares present alternative ideas, branding them as heretics even when they can demonstrate their products publicly as genepax had the b*lls to do. Meanwhile, you continue to p*ss your money away, $4.10 at a clip! I think you deserve what you get. In this case the big-oil mongering "rapists" are raping a willing population of preoccupied, pudding-minded, bone-diddler's who's only worries are how fat Oprah is this week and whether Madonnas' cone-breasts are really made of kevlar! Where's the American Spirit, people? We've seen your kind before in history, beheading those who said the world was round! They were the ones who burned scientists for their discoveries in the name of witchcraft; the naysayers. Wake up and choke on your fumes, clowns! You should be abandoning your gas-guzzling suv's in the street in protest! If you people ran the country we would still be peasants licking the boots of the English crown while worshiping W. Bush as our master! GTH
I want one!
Where do I sign up - I want one of these babies!
Sure it could look a bit better and I need somewhere to fit the dog in but wow, that is fantastic!