The Next Batman 3 Villain

I think the guy who should be the new batman villian in the next batman is the guy who he saved from getting killed in the car accident, the one who new batman's identity and was going to try and blackmail him. He would make a good riddler. I think this is a good time to stay with the more traditional batman villians, but give them a serious and dark twist like Christopher Nolan did with Joker. No penguin or bane for now!

Id love to see Solomon Grundy myself, particulary in a more gothic-horror type of screenplay. It could work well and be a departure from the normal "crime-villain" type of story.

Deacon Blackfire was in a mini-series called "Batman: The Cult". He is presented as a religious fanatic who preaches to the homeless and drugs their free soup and bread, eventually convincing them to follow his lead. He wages a war against crime but this turns devious when eventually he's taken control of large parts of the city. Batman is now seen as a criminal and would be a likely target of the Cult.

The Hangman is a mysterious police killer in the comics, brutally murdering specific ones on various holidays. Each cop was someone who backed up Harvey Dent's political career. There are references to the children's game Hangman left at each crime scene. The true identity ends up being Sofia Falcone, daughter of the mob boss Carmine Falcone in Batman Begins.

Just two lesser known options that I think could make for a gritty looking movie and take the story in a wild new direction. Hopefully the director and screenwriters will take a close look at some of these unused villains before going with Riddler or Catwoman or typical choices.

I would like to see the Penguin (Joe Pesci) return after it ends up that he lost a lot of money in the sting in TDK. I would rather see him as a Godfather type character than the freak he was in Batman Returns.

With Batman out of the picture he takes control of the underworld of Gotham, killing off a lot of the gangsters, Sal Maroni etc. Someone that he uses is a shy and introvert killer for hire known as the Riddler (Joachim Phoenix).

He along with the penguins men have been committing crimes throughout the city and leaving clues as to pin it on Batman. After a while Gordon starts to believe that maybe the batman has turned.

They both chase down the Riddler belieivng him to be the head of the crimeworld only to find out about the gangster penguin.

In the end I would have the Batman redeem himself and capture both the riddler & the penguin to have them locked up in arkham.

This would setup to reopen the franchise years down the line as I dont think Nolan & Bale would go for a 4th?

To be honest, there are only so many ways the 3rd(and final) film can go, because of the style of film Nolan has made the series. He's made the movies to a near realistic story. Bruce Wayne hates crime, trains in martial arts and fighting for 10 years, comes back and uses his money and company creations to fight crime, yet hide his identity because he is a vigilantly. the Joker in the Dark Knight was also brought as realistic character. Just a man, who is absolutely insane, yet brilliant, who wants to destroy Batman and run the city.

So, with the last 2 films villains(Ras al Ghul, Scarecrow, the Joker and Two-face) all being realistic characters(even Two-face who is just a man who lost his vision in good/bad after being scared while his fiancee was murdered). There are only a hand full of villains who can keep up with Nolans realistic image.

First possible Villian being the Riddler. He was commonly being a good, bad guy in the comics, helping the police solve crimes(often for his own fun) Edward Enigma could now come in as the new head investigator of Gotham Crime fighters, who are bent on finding the "cop killer" Batman, who is left as the believed murder in the end of the Black Knight. As Enigma gets closer to finding out Batman's identity, he could slowly lose grip on reality, believing himself to be a master mind, yet still not able to discover Batman identity. This could also be the time for the other villain, possibly the return of the Two-Face to tell him he knows who Batman is. In which Enigma gives up the good guy side to finally be able to find out who batman is, becoming the Riddler.

Now, along with the Riddler idea, as I said the idea of the Two-Face being brought back is also a possibility. As Two-Face didnt seemingly die in the Dark Knight, rather just suggested he did when showing Harvey Dents funeral. He could have escaped or even been locked away in Arhkam Asylum by Gordon.

Now the other possibility would be Talia al Ghul, creating a new League of Shadows, bent on destroying the town and getting revenge on Batman killing her father. This could also be the primary character with the Riddler, taking the place of the Two-Face's role in helping Edward Enigma find out who Batman is, maybe even bringing the Scarecrow back. This is a VERY possible villain role with the style Nolan uses.

Now the last real possibility I think it could be is Cat woman, as shes the last realistic(human) villain. However, the Cat Woman has been used and abused already. Especially the Cat woman movie with Halley Barry. Not to mention, she has no real way to jump into the story. And, it took the entire Batman Begins film to give a believable, liable reason as to why Bruce Wayne dresses up as Cat Woman already, so having a second vigilantly/villain running around as a Cat, would just not fit into Nolans Image.

The other villains such as Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, the Penguin, Killer Croc, the Mad Hatter or Man-Bat are just too unrealistic for Nolan style films. Honestly, could you picture some guy that is half penguin or a guy with ice in blood that turns people to ice, or a girl who has poison in her veins running around in Batman Begins or the Dark Knight? Those are Tim Burton friendly characters, but not the realistic Image Nolan has created.

riddler depp yes. two-face is a must .peguin no maybe if nolan is up to it. catwoman good idea to bring more conflict to batman so maybe.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.
Bring in the Joker's main psycho-squeeze to pick up where her beau left off.

I really do thing that Anarky would be a formidable foe for Batman to encounter b/c they both fight for almost the same reason and yet they're opposites. Batman thinks that Anarky is fighting for crime to increase but is really trying to help otghers survive. Then there's Anarky...... He thinks that Batman is fighting to keep the rich safe (Wouldn't you like to lose all of your money or keep it?) when he's really fighting to keep the crime levels low so no one could get hurt or worse.

It will be a tall order to match the break-through performance given by Heath Ledger as the Joker in "The Dark Knight". For this scenario alone you can rule out a lot of the "younger" less polished actors or actresses in Hollywood today. I personally imagine it will take a caliber of actor above and beyond what we're used to in Superhero flicks. That being said, my idea would be to write a dark, mentally twisted spin on the Riddler's character and have an actor with the range of Dainel Day Lewis play the part. If you've seen him as Bill the Butcher in "Gangs of New York" or as Daniel Plainview in "There Will Be Blood" you will know how dark and disturbing this man can go with his performances. Johnny Depp is a fine actor but he excells in parts that are quite "lite" by "The Dark Knight's" set standards. Daniel Day Lewis as the Riddler is truly the way to go.

I think two-face and/or Mr.Freeze. Eventhough the Riddler is a good choice. Why not have one who's more uhh......basic like the ventriloquist guy.