I think the guy who should be the new batman villian in the next batman is the guy who he saved from getting killed in the car accident, the one who new batman's identity and was going to try and blackmail him. He would make a good riddler. I think this is a good time to stay with the more traditional batman villians, but give them a serious and dark twist like Christopher Nolan did with Joker. No penguin or bane for now!

Id love to see Solomon Grundy myself, particulary in a more gothic-horror type of screenplay. It could work well and be a departure from the normal "crime-villain" type of story.

Talia al Ghul, with Bane as her bodyguard!!

Deacon Blackfire was in a mini-series called "Batman: The Cult". He is presented as a religious fanatic who preaches to the homeless and drugs their free soup and bread, eventually convincing them to follow his lead. He wages a war against crime but this turns devious when eventually he's taken control of large parts of the city. Batman is now seen as a criminal and would be a likely target of the Cult.

The Hangman is a mysterious police killer in the comics, brutally murdering specific ones on various holidays. Each cop was someone who backed up Harvey Dent's political career. There are references to the children's game Hangman left at each crime scene. The true identity ends up being Sofia Falcone, daughter of the mob boss Carmine Falcone in Batman Begins.

Just two lesser known options that I think could make for a gritty looking movie and take the story in a wild new direction. Hopefully the director and screenwriters will take a close look at some of these unused villains before going with Riddler or Catwoman or typical choices.

It would seem to me, in the movie we will begin without a batman. He will be considered an outlaw by the masses, and retired in Bruce Wayne's eyes as Gotham has straightened out and enjoying an upswing. The main villain will need to be someone who threatens that calm... I could see it being a political figure that on the outside is considered the best thing to come along, but inside has an evil agenda (it's too bad they have already used the Harvey Dent turn). Batman will have to be needed. Bane as a super right hand man is a great idea, but the main villain still eludes me. The Riddler could be an interesting choice (Batman would be the only person capable of figuring out his riddles), but turning him into the lovable villain would be a stretch, something thankfully Christopher Nolan has been pretty good at shying away from. What Batman needs for the next movie (and yes I understand I am mixing my DC universe criminals) is a Lex Luthor - from the Justice League cartoon series - type of I'm here to help you, as long as it furthers my own agenda criminal.

I would like to see the Penguin (Joe Pesci) return after it ends up that he lost a lot of money in the sting in TDK. I would rather see him as a Godfather type character than the freak he was in Batman Returns.

With Batman out of the picture he takes control of the underworld of Gotham, killing off a lot of the gangsters, Sal Maroni etc. Someone that he uses is a shy and introvert killer for hire known as the Riddler (Joachim Phoenix).

He along with the penguins men have been committing crimes throughout the city and leaving clues as to pin it on Batman. After a while Gordon starts to believe that maybe the batman has turned.

They both chase down the Riddler belieivng him to be the head of the crimeworld only to find out about the gangster penguin.

In the end I would have the Batman redeem himself and capture both the riddler & the penguin to have them locked up in arkham.

This would setup to reopen the franchise years down the line as I dont think Nolan & Bale would go for a 4th?

To be honest, there are only so many ways the 3rd(and final) film can go, because of the style of film Nolan has made the series. He's made the movies to a near realistic story. Bruce Wayne hates crime, trains in martial arts and fighting for 10 years, comes back and uses his money and company creations to fight crime, yet hide his identity because he is a vigilantly. the Joker in the Dark Knight was also brought as realistic character. Just a man, who is absolutely insane, yet brilliant, who wants to destroy Batman and run the city.

So, with the last 2 films villains(Ras al Ghul, Scarecrow, the Joker and Two-face) all being realistic characters(even Two-face who is just a man who lost his vision in good/bad after being scared while his fiancee was murdered). There are only a hand full of villains who can keep up with Nolans realistic image.

First possible Villian being the Riddler. He was commonly being a good, bad guy in the comics, helping the police solve crimes(often for his own fun) Edward Enigma could now come in as the new head investigator of Gotham Crime fighters, who are bent on finding the "cop killer" Batman, who is left as the believed murder in the end of the Black Knight. As Enigma gets closer to finding out Batman's identity, he could slowly lose grip on reality, believing himself to be a master mind, yet still not able to discover Batman identity. This could also be the time for the other villain, possibly the return of the Two-Face to tell him he knows who Batman is. In which Enigma gives up the good guy side to finally be able to find out who batman is, becoming the Riddler.

Now, along with the Riddler idea, as I said the idea of the Two-Face being brought back is also a possibility. As Two-Face didnt seemingly die in the Dark Knight, rather just suggested he did when showing Harvey Dents funeral. He could have escaped or even been locked away in Arhkam Asylum by Gordon.

Now the other possibility would be Talia al Ghul, creating a new League of Shadows, bent on destroying the town and getting revenge on Batman killing her father. This could also be the primary character with the Riddler, taking the place of the Two-Face's role in helping Edward Enigma find out who Batman is, maybe even bringing the Scarecrow back. This is a VERY possible villain role with the style Nolan uses.

Now the last real possibility I think it could be is Cat woman, as shes the last realistic(human) villain. However, the Cat Woman has been used and abused already. Especially the Cat woman movie with Halley Barry. Not to mention, she has no real way to jump into the story. And, it took the entire Batman Begins film to give a believable, liable reason as to why Bruce Wayne dresses up as Cat Woman already, so having a second vigilantly/villain running around as a Cat, would just not fit into Nolans Image.

The other villains such as Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, the Penguin, Killer Croc, the Mad Hatter or Man-Bat are just too unrealistic for Nolan style films. Honestly, could you picture some guy that is half penguin or a guy with ice in blood that turns people to ice, or a girl who has poison in her veins running around in Batman Begins or the Dark Knight? Those are Tim Burton friendly characters, but not the realistic Image Nolan has created.

riddler depp yes. two-face is a must .peguin no maybe if nolan is up to it. catwoman good idea to bring more conflict to batman so maybe.

Make Killer Croc a murdering psychopath, a la Red Dragon's the Tooth Fairy, played by Ralph Fiennes. A serial killer, rapist type would be very very real.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.
Bring in the Joker's main psycho-squeeze to pick up where her beau left off.

We've seen just about all the villains from Batman over the years. I agree Anarky would be a great villain, one villain I would like to see that hasn't been remotely introduced in any of the movies is the Mad Hatter.

The most obvious choices right now are Riddler and Penguin. Riddler is simialer to Joker in the sence of crazy and psychotic. But he is very different from him in the sence that he is much more collected, calmer, extremely wiley and intelligent, and unlike Joker he plans things step by step. He could at first be used by the GCPD to try and figure out who Batman is and ends up becoming so obsessed with finding out Batman's real identity that he vanishes and starts investigating his way. As for Penguin, erase any trace or image of Tim Burton's Penguin sand stay closer to what he was like in the comics. That means drop the whole using birds to commit his crimes but let him still have a fascination with rare and exotic birds just for show. Make him a corrupt business man and an illegal arms dealer. A powerful gangster. Penguin was always much more concerned with making money and staying in business. Phillip Seymour Hoffman could play that role well. Just give him a slightly longer nose but keep him civilized and sophisticated while at the same time hiding his corrupt tendencies. I would like to see Mr Freeze get a do over. Arnold absolutely ruined Freeze's character. It would be difficult but it can be done. I would like to see Deadshot. He could be another "hired gun" by the GCPD to try and take down Batman. Black Mask can be done as well. I would like to see just a quick cameo from the Joker. Possibly just a few seconds on-screen. Something like this: Riddler/Penguin get arrested and get shipped to Arkham they get thrown into a cell. They look at the cell across from theirs and see somebody sitting in a bench in the cell. The person's face is never shown. Just his sitting body with the name tag on his prison suit reading "Joker".

I really do thing that Anarky would be a formidable foe for Batman to encounter b/c they both fight for almost the same reason and yet they're opposites. Batman thinks that Anarky is fighting for crime to increase but is really trying to help otghers survive. Then there's Anarky...... He thinks that Batman is fighting to keep the rich safe (Wouldn't you like to lose all of your money or keep it?) when he's really fighting to keep the crime levels low so no one could get hurt or worse.

Anarky is not a good choice, that what the TDK movie was about with the joker, they need a new theme for next, Anarky? not a good one, the best would be the riddler, it's a good choice on so many levels and there's so much u can do with the character, I would put another villain in there though, but the riddler would be the next villain, catwoman? halle berry killed that character, if the next film even touches that character....wouldn't be a good look

It will be a tall order to match the break-through performance given by Heath Ledger as the Joker in "The Dark Knight". For this scenario alone you can rule out a lot of the "younger" less polished actors or actresses in Hollywood today. I personally imagine it will take a caliber of actor above and beyond what we're used to in Superhero flicks. That being said, my idea would be to write a dark, mentally twisted spin on the Riddler's character and have an actor with the range of Dainel Day Lewis play the part. If you've seen him as Bill the Butcher in "Gangs of New York" or as Daniel Plainview in "There Will Be Blood" you will know how dark and disturbing this man can go with his performances. Johnny Depp is a fine actor but he excells in parts that are quite "lite" by "The Dark Knight's" set standards. Daniel Day Lewis as the Riddler is truly the way to go.

i would like to see th mad hatter and i think johnny depp would pull that roll off

I would have to agree that Anarchy would be a great choice, but why not bring in Robin at this point and have them fight The Riddler or Scarecrow since he made an apperance in The Dark Night, and also put some scenes in of the Arkham Asylum. Also if you wanted something to really get the audience going what about making a team up that no one would think of happening, like Bane, Clayface, Killer Croc, and lets not forget Mr. Freeze, you could bring back Arnold Schwarzenegger for that role, just make him meaner and have a better suit!!!

I think two-face and/or Mr.Freeze. Eventhough the Riddler is a good choice. Why not have one who's more uhh......basic like the ventriloquist guy.

I definitely think that Two-Face should appear in the next Batman but I also don't think we have seen the last of the Joker either. This will be a tough role to take on after the spectacular portrayal by Ledger but given the two examples of the modern day Joker (Heath Ledger and Jack Nicholson)there is but one person who could pull off the in between role... Christian Slater. He is barely enough of a maniac to tie in with Ledger's brilliant performance and can just do the Nicholson voice so darn well. As for Catwoman and Penguin, I hope we don't have to see either of them any time soon.

What about John Goodman as King Tut? Have him starve Gotham of Fuel Oil. This would be a good time for it. This given the situation in the Middle East.

i dont care what new villin they pick i just wanna see more unreal ninjutsu. and better fight scenes i dont think that last movie started out with a really good fight scene like it should've they were making it look like the bat was getting old and tired (bullsh*t) i dont ever wanna see that sh*t happen again! i wanna see him on top of his game then slip up a little then a little more then BAM! he's on top again smackin heads together.and don't give me that the bats too tired sh*t. bring in robbin like may-b robbin is like a really kick ass martial arts student or somthing think about it roll it around a bit.just keep the bat doing what he does best beatin ass

I love the idea of bringing back Two Face. Like maybe they could say that he got knocked out at the end of The Dark Knight and come back for revenge. They could also include Tilia Al Gul to help the riddler. But overall I would love to see Two Face come back as the Riddler.

This would throw a true curve ball at the fans. I mean everyone expects Pinguin or Riddler or even Catwoman. But the man who broke the back of the Dark Knight would be incredible. He only got a bit part in the horrid "Batman and Robin" movie and it was degrading and unimpressive. Let him be the monster that he is in the comic. They could get Michael Clark Duncan to play the role to really put the fear in Batman and I think it would be incredible.

will superman ever be included or thrown in the mix? Anyone see that bill-board in I AM LEGEND?

i dot think they should realy bring robin in to the moives because these some thing about him that will wreck it he is not real a good idea unless they try to show a darker side to robin like they did to batman this time round also no superman because dc are bring out a justide iague moive any way but you know the original batwomen story would be better than robin you know the one where its gordons daughter who is batgirl and when she dies gorden kills batman because he thinks it was his fault.

The next vilian should be Mr.Freeze and any other villian it dont matter and by the way get will ferrel to be the next batman. LOL, not really but he would make a good riddler

you're all gay. spiderman 3 was better

Bane Bane Bane!!! Nuff said. No Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman or any of the other lame characters they've already used in other lame Batman movies. None of these Batman ban wagon fans know anything about Bane which is why he is the best choice. Vote Bane!!!

I don't know if anyone will be able to follow the phenomenon that was Heath Ledger's role as Joker, so maybe it would be best to put together a darker version for the next movie since Batman is now being viewed as less of a hero for the good of Gotham. With that in mind, perhaps an action / horror film may be a good idea. Clayface and Scarecrow are possibly the two villains that specialized best in using fear as a weapon but are very different in their approach. Scarecrow with all his terror inspiring gadgets and Clayface with his shapeshifting and death touch. Those two villains would give a darker version of a Batman movie a huge draw from superhero fans, horror fans and action fans. If you throw a couple of big name actors in as Clayface (Kevin Spacey?) and Scarecrow (Johnny Depp?) it could be a big winner at the box office.

The Riddler would be awesome for the next new villain and they should Bring back The Joker and Two Face
i love Heath Ledger as the joker he was pretty good
but they need the joker more like in the comic books more as a mobster ,clean cut looking
they made the joker in the dark knight with long hair kinda shitty
it looks like a beetlejuice copy almost
i think Crispin Glover could make a good joker
he has the the look of the joker he could pull it off

they also should bring in Robin
and if they do bring in The Joker back they should have Harley quinn

we never see Rachel Dawes die we only hear an explosion. what if the police saved Rachel before the explosion? what if it turns out she becomes cat woman and love/hates batman for both being Bruce Wayne but also because batman killed dent? the other thing is, dent could have just been knocked unconscious from that fall, I mean it didn't kill batman....... things to think about.

What about Hush? I think that would work well with what Nolan has been doing.

Crispin Glover would be perfect for the new Joker
I hope they cast him for the role
and bring in Robin and Harley quinn

In order to keep it fresh and stay unpredictable, the villain in the next movie has to venture away from the others in how they approach being a villain. The Joker was an uncontrollable anarchist who really had no weakness and was extremely extroverted. Two-Face is ruled by a twisted form of justice that he believes is embodied in chance. He is a tragic anti-villain who you feel sorry for in many ways.
Why not reinvent Mr. Freeze much like they reinvented the Joker? Except instead of a cryogenic suit and ice weapons, he is merely a unique human criminal. The name Mr. Freeze can represent a cold blooded killer. He is highly intelligent and has absolutely no empathy for anyone. His level of emotion in the movie could be a polar opposite of Joker. Concerning look, make him an albino with blue eyes, he wears blue clothing and just being around him gives you the chills. Give him almost a Grim Reaper feel. This is the last movie and the thought of Batman’s own death should be looked into in this movie. Not that he will actually die, but just having an enemy that encompasses the cold chill of death and the strange feeling that this could be Batman’s last battle.

clayface because in the storys he is made because joker makes a cop drink this strange liqid that turns him in to clay flace i think clay face should be the cop that died because something was put in his drink i think the story should be that it makes him look dead but after he is bered he brakes from his coffin and looks at his had which has started to turn to clay

I think pretty much any Batman Villian ~could~ be reinvented for Nolan style Batman, the trick is to keep their escence, while also sticking to reality (loosing the sci-fi) elements..

Here's my take:

The Riddler-Obviously a detective that is brought in to track down batman (but has a criminal/greedy underside).

Talia Al Ghoul- Ras Al Ghoul's daughter bent for revenge on Gotham and Batman/Bruce Wayne (maybe falls in love w/Wayne along the way and changes her mind??).

The Catwoman- in Her mid 20's (around 30 at the latest). A beautiful girl (former olypian/gymnist) whom has (college) debt so turn to "cat-burglary" for money to take up her debt, in peak athletic physical shape, but has the athleticism (training) to jump from polls/roof tops (maybe turned to crime such as protestution to pay for crimes and "killed her pimp" which made her a criminal?

Mr. (Victor) Freeze Fries- Could be the CEO of a Cryogenics/Science Biotech company..He (and his wife) contract a rare disease in South America (or a rare cancer) which inspires his research into "cryogenics" to "freeze" and then save her life at a later date? Maybe because of his own disease he has to spend time in a cryogenic chamber hyperbaric chamber from time to time to recouperate?). maybe this temporarily makes him insane (and maybe the death of his wife makes him "cold" emotionally, aka "Mr. Freeze"). Perhaps he was a friend of Bruce Wayne, and his "cold" heart causes him to commit crime to fund his expense research into cryogenics/get misplaced revenge on Wayne??

The Penguin Oswald Cobblepot: (a guy who is obsessed with Penguins/Rare birds), a mobster/crooked politican/crooked businessman (has a long nose, kind of "large" but definately human). Maybe likes living large and attending parties ("hob-nobbing" so to speak..) wearing a "penguin-suit".

Clayface (use the take from the first clay face- a tragic actor figure good at using disguises aka a "clay-face" unrecognizable more than once).

Poision Ivy- A college grad student whom is working in a bio-tech company dealing in venemous animal/fauna. She has worked up somewhat of an immunity to poisonous animals/plants from her work/love for them). Maybe injecting just enough plant/snake venom to work up this immunity to live and work with them. She becomes an eco-terrorists to terrorise Wayne Enterprises and others in Gotham for their percieved/real disreguard for plants and animal life around Gotham??

Black mask-a Gangster using fear to rule the underworld wears a mask (somewhat inspired by Batman but used in a perverse manner)?

Man-Bat- A "Crazy" man who thinks he's a bat, wears a bat costume (not really creative like Batman, but tacky one) to committ murder and has a rare blood disease?

Bane- Former wrestler and criminal from South America, uses powerful steroids that over a few hours time make him extremely strong but insane..

THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA..

I personally don’t want to see any of the usual Batman villains. They’ve all been done to death and that it’s going to be one of them is too predictable.

The logical progression from TDK is that Batman is going to be cast as the bad guy (in the eyes of Gotham).

The lie will get out of the control of Gordon and Batman. Fuelled by the press, more and more stuff will get pinned on him, criminals will start to dress up like him, and all manner of crimes will be attributed to him, tapping into a theme from Julius Ceasar (who was mentioned in TDK) that the mob likes only one thing more than building up a hero, and that is destroying a hero.

Eventually, the citizens of Gotham will call for the nuclear option - the ultimate response (the big theme), and that nuclear option in the DC universe is Superman, the most powerful being and weapon in the universe.

Cue a shocking and titanic battle, with Superman initially buying the press rubbish, and Batman seeing Superman rather like the monster in Cloverfield, as something alien and out of this world, that doesn’t belong in it, and needs to be destroyed. Remember Fox saying that no one man should have that much power in TDK about Batmans machine? That’s what Batman is going to see in Superman - one man who has too much power - something that like the machine should not exist.

Seeing something as out there as Superman in the relatively realistic Nolan&Goyer Batman universe will be shocking, and as long as Nolan&Goyer can put their twist on Superman without destroying his essence, that shock value will be helpful to them. (Not an easy task and no one has been able to do it, except in some of the comics, which will be known to those to whom elements of this storyline will be familiar.)

It won’t be hard for them to portray Superman as the ‘bad guy’ to us, because he could embody that blind do gooder attitude, that sees everything at face value, and rushes in all guns blazing, with more power than he seems to know what to do with.

The resolution of the film will be that Batman comes to see that Superman is not just a powerful being, but an extraordinary human being - someone worthy of being trusted with the power he has, but contrary to most peoples expectations Batman will win the fight because he will discover Superman’s Achillies heel - kryptonite.

Goyer asked in his recent interview how they could top TDK, well I think this would do the trick, assuming they could overcome the considerable challenges, most obviously: How to handle Superman in the Goyer&Nolan Batman universe and who would you get to play Superman who could put in a performance to equal Heath Ledgers?